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Texas Support for Open Source Technology Education

OpenSourceForAll writes "North Lake College in Irving, TX is offering the first Open Source Technology certificate in the U.S. beginning Spring of 2006. The certificate program was made possible through a grant by the Texas Skills Standards Board. As a TSSB-recognized program, open source will finally get the corporate and industrial exposure it deserves. We believe the program is the only one of its kind in the nation at the community college level. Our goal is to promote Open Source as a business philosophy and as a way of life rather than limiting the program to a few token OSS offerings. Among the courses to be offered: The Philosophy of Open Source, a series of LAMP courses, and a capstone course which will focus on OSS development practices. Courses will be offered both on-line and on-campus."

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  1. I agree, but even better... by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I would love to take that course.

    I agree, I would too. But even better, I'd like to send some people to that course, especially intermediate manager/technical types at my company. They're the ones, unfortunately, who just don't get it and need to be educated about the principles of Open Source and what makes it worthwhile.

    1. Re:I agree, but even better... by TheAdventurer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The idea that someone who doesn't choose something needs to be "educated" about it until they do choose it is suspicious... kind of Orwellian.

    2. Re:I agree, but even better... by mgkimsal2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Likewise the person who makes a "decision" without having any knowledge of more than one option - in other words, an uninformed decision - is often doing great harm to the organization they saddle with that decision.

  2. Not a BS, MS, or Phd, but... by Cerdic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In my opinion an associates in this holds much more value than a Microsoft Certified Professional certificate.

    If universities dish out Bachelor of Science/Art degrees in Madonna Studies (the musician), golf course management, and pig enterprise management, one would hope that they'd jump on this.

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    1. Re:Not a BS, MS, or Phd, but... by bbrack · · Score: 2, Insightful

      before you knock golf course management, it's a lot more difficult than you might think - every golf course needs a manager, and the revenues of a golf club can swing millions depending on the quality of a manager

      things like livestock management involve large amounts of statistics, and the process of maximizing livestock yields is very similar to that of maximizing semiconductor yields

      if you want a major to pick on, there's always underwater basketweaving :P

  3. Huh? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Among the courses to be offered: The Philosophy of Open Source, a series of LAMP courses, and a capstone course which will focus on OSS development practices. Courses will be offered both on-line and on-campus."

    A class on the philosphy of open source? A whole semester? Yay indoctrination!

    1. Re:Huh? by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Dunno man, maybe I'm too optimistic, but even though the aim is to promote those things, I'd *hope* that a University of all places would have a more balanced teaching approach. Even when my lecturers expressed preferences about technologies, processes or approaches during my CS degree, they were always at least trying to be fair minded about it...

      You were lucky. College is generally a bastion of opinionated blowhards.

      Regardless, you cannot at the same time promote a philosphy (in the advocacy sense) and be balanced regarding it. One of those will lose out by definition. If their statement were "We seek to present a forum for the discussion of Open Source technology, including advantages and disadvantages..." then that would be different. And a course that should be an elective (or part of an elective course) in any good CS program.

    2. Re:Huh? by greginnj · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Dunno man, maybe I'm too optimistic, but even though the aim is to promote those things, I'd *hope* that a University of all places would have a more balanced teaching approach.

      Geez, man, you're absolutely right. When, oh when, will some brave community college in the USA like "North Lake College in Irving, TX" exhibit a balanced teaching approach by offering a whole-semester course on MS Windows or MS Office?

      We can only dream ...

      http://www.northlakecollege.edu/academics/bit/MSce rt.htm

      http://www.northlakecollege.edu/academics/BIT/MOSc ert.htm

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  4. IBM, open source education by karvind · · Score: 4, Informative
    There was earlier news story: IBM Donates $5 Million to Open Source Education.

    That was for Kansas: Butler Community College, Cowley County Community College, Hutchinson Community College and Wichita Area Technical College.

  5. The 50-Front War by c,mma · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Making the study of Open Source software and philosophy available to students as formal curriculum can only help to further establish an already unstoppable momentum. Microsoft must now open yet another front in their battle against open source. From MS's academic "studies" that attack open source as a viable platform for governments and private citizens, to their secret slashdot promoters, to their highly-paid lobbyists in every country, MS must now take the war into the offices of, I hope, what will become thousands of college administrations, and somehow persuade them NOT to offer a view contrary to the official Redmond way. Good luck, MS!

  6. LAMP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm not sure it's a great idea to focus much on LAMP. Most people I know just think of it as a cheap way to setup a website, giving crap about stuff such as the license or philosopy.

  7. Open source education? by burtdub · · Score: 2, Funny
    If the kids know what's good for them, they'll push to make all education open source.

    Especially the answer sheet to tests.

  8. LAMP? PHP? Python? Perl? by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What sort of "LAMP" are they talking about here? Does the "P" represent Python, PHP, or Perl? Some combination of the three?

    What about FAMP (FreeBSD, Apache, MySQL, Python) or NAPRR (NetBSD, Apache, PostgreSQL, Ruby on Rails), and so on?

    I don't think it's a good program if it doesn't expose the students to the entire open source community. It's good for such business people to be aware of the alternatives to commercial, closed source software. But it's also important for them to realize that the open source community isn't limited to Linux, MySQL and PHP. There are often far better (ie. more secure, less resource-intensive, etc.) pieces of open source software out there. And if their developers suggest the use of such alternatives, it would be beneficial if they had some knowledge of them.

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  9. Courses on open source professionalism? by CyricZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do any educational institutions offer Open Source Professionalism courses? Such a course may be quite beneficial for many open source developers. While many developers are great programmers and designers, they often lack the public relations skills necessary for any serious project. It's not just about the communication skills with users, but also about projecting a solid, professional image.

    More often than not we see instances of open source developers damaging the reputation and image of the projects they're involved with. Take the recent case of Novell's servers being vandalized. And then there was the recent incident of a KOffice developer publically insulting a KOffice user. Whatever the circumstances, the end result is that the product and community looks bad because of the lack of professionalism from even just a single individual.

    That is why I suggest that many open source developers take a course on basic professionalism, if one is offered anywhere. Any large scale project requires developers who are polite, intelligent, respectable and well-spoken. The open source community has the capability to succeed beyond our wildest dreams if we as a group are able to master professionalism.

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  10. Getting Involved... by polyp2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would like to find out more about getting involved in these kind of initiatives , perhaps as a change career direction. I've heard of similar government and local council initiatives in the UK where I live. I've got an excellent background with linux and opensource technologies but want possibly to move away from Web Development and do something where im working with what I love and perhaps branch out and gain some more skills along the way.

    Nick ...

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  11. I went to North Lake by Stonent1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We had a computer center that was "donated" to us by Microsoft. There were banners hanging all around it saying stuff like "Welcome to the Microsoft Computer Lab" It was about 1999 or so, and all the PCs were Dell GXa and GXi PCs with removable hard drive trays. I was going to be taking MCSE courses for Windows NT 4.0 at the time. I finished Networking Essentials and Windows NT 4.0, but shortly after took a job where one of the requirements was that the person NOT be an MCSE because they were tired of MCSEs. They said they picked me because I didn't have an MCSE and I knew what I was talking about.

  12. "Open Source" class @ Stevens Institute, NJ by hubertf · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's also a class on Open Source this fall term at the Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, NJ. Mail me for more information.

      - Hubert

  13. Re:Thank you Tom Delay. by bb5ch39t · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Variation of an old joke from the 1950s (as I was told).

    Reporter: Senator, why is there a decrease in personal wealth?

    Senator: I blame the Ways and Means comittee!

    Reporter: The Ways And Means Comittee?!?

    Senator: Yes, you have have Means, they'll find Ways to get it!

  14. Re:Have you even entered the real world yet? by loqi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I basically have to agree with the GP here. Burger-flippers have to be polite to people that don't deserve it, because it's their ass on the line. Ditto all the way up the corporate chain.

    Please, please explain to me why a KOffice developer has any incentive to lick the boots of the un/misinformed (which, to put it as "professionally" as possible, you were clearly a member of in the linked thread). It's not like you pay his salary.

    You can whine and moan all you like that this guy doesn't behave within the choking confines of corporate norms, but that doesn't mean his behavior is at all out of line. I think you need to re-examine the way you expect to be treated. It seems pretty apparent that your first reaction wasn't, "Why did I piss this guy off so much?" but "Oh my god! This guy is pissed off at me! That's not supposed to happen!"

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  15. I have the course syllabus. by DraconPern · · Score: 2, Funny

    I got hold of the course syllabus and I am posting it here.

    Chapter 1. RTFM.
    That is all.