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X Prize Founder Launches Rocket Racing League

David Rosen writes "MSNBC reports a 'Rocket Racing League' is launching today. The man behind the $10 million X Prize for private spaceflight is joining forces with a venture capitalist who is also an Indy car backer to establish a NASCAR-like racing league for rocket-powered aircraft." The Rocket Racing League also has an official website which outlines some of the specifics behind the program.

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  1. Re:Crashes... by msdschris · · Score: 1, Informative

    Went to Michigan International Speedway this year and seats on the outside across from the pits were $80/each. What I found incredibly cool was you could bring in whatever food/drink you could fit into a softside cooler. The added entertainment of some of the spectators was well worth the $80 alone.

  2. Re:We need new propulsion methods by Enigma_Man · · Score: 2, Informative

    Honda makes a diesel that'll do 130 MPH, and get 92 MPG (not at the same time, mind you, but in the exact same vehicle though). It's not an overly-expensive interior-space-lacking hybrid, just a regular diesel, with an Accord body (looks like a normal car, not stupid-futuristic like a lot of "concepts" are). At the end of the quarter mile, the car is doing a dreadfully slow 54.198 MPH though. Acceleration isn't everything, but being able to get the hell out of the way of oncoming traffic and merge with a fast-moving freeway is necessary in many parts of the world. This would be on the dangerous end of slow acceleration for real-life driving.

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  3. Re:We need new propulsion methods by AKAImBatman · · Score: 2, Informative

    These things are not "Minivans". (At least, not as they're defined in the US.) They're "mini-vehicles", period. And yes, they're on sale in the US. No, I seriously doubt they'll catch on.

    Not sure where you got the Ford or GM connection.

  4. Reno air races by theycallmeB · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are also joining forces with the organizers of the annual Reno Air Races that were held just a couple weeks ago. Similar to grand prix road races, there are several classes of air racers, the biggest and fastest being the piston-powered Unlimiteds (mostly stripped and re-engined WWII-era fighters). Courses are low to the ground and marked by giant pylons. From the article, it seems the rocket racers are planning more vertical courses so it will be intersting the see how those are plotted. Maybe GPS and a virtual track shown on a heads-up display?

    For those pointing out that some people watch NASCAR mostly for the crashes, crashes at Reno usually involve a distant thud, a cloud of smoke and little good news. Everybody maintains a healthy distance between aircraft, crowd others out of the course and you get grounded, do it too often (as in more than once or twice), and you get banned.

  5. Re:Looks like Long-EZs by Once&FutureRocketman · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's because that is what they are.

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  6. Re:Indeed by temojen · · Score: 3, Informative
    Ramjets need to be supersonic.
    No, I believe you're referring to SCRAMjets. Ramjets just need a supersonic nozzle. See Wikipedia, especially:
    ...although inefficient at the slower speeds, are still more fuel-efficient than rockets within the atmosphere.
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    Plus it would no longer fit the criteria, what not being a rocket.
    From the parent:
    I hope this doesn't hopelessly ground us in chemical rockets
    I was just pointing out we needn't be limited to rockets, let alone chemical rockets. Rockets are good at some things, like propulsion in a vacuum. Propulsion at subsonic speeds at low altitude is not one of them.
  7. Re:We need new propulsion methods by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not "overly expensive"? Lets see... a quick search shows an unequipped accord ctdi sport costing over $30,000. Hybrids aren't even that expensive; not all hybrids are small, either - the Ford Escape Hybrid, Mercury Mariner Hybrid, the Lexus RX400h, the Toyota Highlander, and - you guessed it - the Honda Accord Hybrid (only 3k more than the EV6 V6 Accord, and gets the same milage as a V4 Civic), just to list larger ones currently on the market. In fact, I'd say that they average about the size of the accord.

    Not that the ctdi sport's numbers aren't outright great, mind you, even if they are for perfectly controlled conditions (which seldom materialize in real-world tests) :) The problem with diesels is the pressure. The high internal pressure generally means either a very heavy engine or an engine made with expensive materials/manufacturing techniques. When you scale up to large freight-hauling vehicles, the penalty becomes less severe. Trying to make a small diesel vehicle, however, means that you have a lot of mass that you have to get moving. Furthermore, diesels have high torque but low max RPM. The net effect on a small vehicle is slow acceleration. They can also be inconvenient (cold weather starting difficulties/delays, noise and vibration, etc). Again, to be fair, the aforementioned Accord has been rated quite well for a diesel on the typical diesel shortcomings.

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  8. Re:The Reno Air Races Still go on you know... by Molochi · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think it's funny that the PROPELLOR powerered aircraft (modified P-51 fighters and such) that I watched at the Reno airraces 15 years ago, were considerably faster than the proposed rocket planes for this sport.

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  9. Re:Non-chemical rockets by Rei · · Score: 2, Informative

    Laserbeam-powered

    Good luck getting that sort of laser power ;) Not to mention that the wallplug efficiency of lasers with good coherence over a long range is typically less than one percent.

    the case of staging

    Already done :) People try to keep staging to a minimum to reduce costs. While a tow stage, for example, isn't very complex, high-speed explosive separation from powerful boosters can be. It also makes setup and reuse more complicated.

    meta-stable fuels

    Everyone wants them; nobody has them ;) Being a monoprop isn't really the big deal - people would love to use H2/O3 rockets, for example. The reason that the known exotic fuels aren't being used is because they're problematic; they tend to either be poisonous and corrosive (containing, say, beryllium or fluorine), explosive (say, O3), impossible to synthesize thusfar (say, N12), or a combination of the above. The drive for such fuels is quite understandable, of course - some of the ISPs blow the mind (for example, spin polarized triplet helium, at 2800-3150 sec - but it's "half-life" of two hours, and incredibly low density after containment (as well as containment difficulties - magnetic containment and laser cooling for a rocket fuel??) are greatly problematic). Research still is warranted, at least on the chemicals whose main problem is no known synthesis route, and those which might possibly be stabilized; alane (stabilized aluminum hydride) research is well underway, as an example.

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