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HBO Attacking BitTorrent

DIY News writes "HBO is actively poisoning the BitTorrent downloads of the new show Rome. In addition to an older tactic of offering bogus downloads that never complete, HBO is now obstructing the downloads offered by other people. HBO runs peers that tell the tracker they have all the chunks of the show, but then send garbage data when a downloader requests a chunk. While the bogus peers can be detected, it will take much longer to download shows."

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  1. Thankfully by kaosrain · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Closed registration torrent sites will be able to weed out the poisoners.

    1. Re:Thankfully by golgotha007 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just host the site in an eastern European country, problem solved. I know, because I live and operate an ISP in Russia, and I host whatever the hell I want, worry free.

  2. TiVo by CaptainPinko · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I use torrents instead of the TiVo I don't own. I've got fully legit paid for HBO but lately I've been too busy to watch Rome so I've just been d/l-ing them. I wonder how that falls under fair-use?

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    1. Re:TiVo by tmhsiao · · Score: 4, Interesting

      To play devil's advocate, HBO is a pay-subscription service--you pay a monthly fee, you get access to their content. They're even quite nice about it--if you miss Rome on Sunday, you're welcome to watch it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or Saturday because they show repeats incessantly.

      Forget to catch a repeat? They push it onto the On-Demand service for subscribers who pay for said service

      So after that multitude of opportunities to see a given episode of Rome, who are the majority of people attempting to download the episode? Of course, you'll have some people who forgot to set their VCRs or only have one out of the seven HBO channels available, or who's recording got cut off if they didn't pad it correctly.

      But the obvious answer: The majority of downloaders will be people who want the content without paying for it. Hence, people who do not have on-demand access to the content and therefore have no fair use rights to it.

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  3. My Infringement Notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Here's an infrinigement notice from MediaSentry passed along to me just the other day by Speakeasy for downloading 2.4k worth of Rome on BitTorrent.

    It might be worth noting that I was using Azureus and running PeerGuardian at the time of the download.

    I'm running Azureus on a different computer now.
    Subject: Case ID XXXXXXXX - Notice of Claimed Infringement
    Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:56:33 -0400
    To: Abe Usetonsen <abuse@speakeasy.net>
    From: MediaSentry Copyright Infringement <infringements@hbo.com>
     
    Monday, October 03, 2005
     
    Speakeasy Network DSL
    Seattle, WA 98121 US
     
    RE: Unauthorized Distribution of the Copyrighted Television Program Entitled Rome
     
    Dear Abe Usetonsen:
     
    We are writing this letter on behalf of Home Box Office, Inc. ("HBO").
     
    We have received information that an individual has utilized the above-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer downloads of copyrighted television program(s) through a "peer-to-peer" service, including such title(s) as:
     
    Rome
     
    The distribution of unauthorized copies of copyrighted television programs constitutes copyright infringement under the Copyright Act, Title 17 United States Code Section 106(3).
     
    Since you own this IP address, we request that you immediately do the following:
     
    1) Disable access to the individual who has engaged in the conduct described above; and
    2) Take appropriate action against the account holder (if other than the individual whose access has been disabled) under your Abuse Policy/Terms of Service Agreement.
     
    On behalf of HBO, owner of the exclusive rights to the copyrighted material at issue in this notice, we hereby state, that we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by HBO, its respective agents, or the law.
     
    Also, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury, under the laws of the State of New York and under the laws of the United States, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive rights being infringed as set forth in this notification.
     
    Please direct any end user queries to the following address:
     
    Steve Rosenthal
    Legal Department
    Home Box Office, Inc.
    1100 Avenue of the Americas
    New York, NY 10036
    212.512.1780 phone
    212.512.5854 fax
    infringements@hbo.com email
     
    Kindly include the Case ID XXXXXXXX, also noted above, in the subject line of all future correspondence regarding this matter.
     
    We appreciate your assistance and thank you for your cooperation in this matter. Your prompt response is requested.
     
    Respectfully,
     
    Mark Weaver,
    Director of Enforcement
    MediaSentry, Inc.
     
    --------------------
    Infringement Detail:
    Infringing Work: Rome
    Filepath: Rome.S01E06.HDTV.XviD-LOL.[eztv].torrent
    Filename : Rome.S01E06.HDTV.XviD-LOL.avi
    First Found: 3 Oct 2005 10:28:33 EDT (GMT -0400)
    Last Found: 3 Oct 2005 10:28:33 EDT (GMT -0400)
    Filesize: 359,196k
    IP Address: X.X.X.X
    IP Port: 26495
    Network: BTPeers
    Protocol: BitTorrent
        Download (untitled) 2.4k
  4. Bittornado by metatruk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In Bittornado, and possibly other clients, there's an option you can check that will ban peers that do this.

    prefs -> check [Kick/ban clients that send you bad data]

    After at least one failed hash check, the client won't eat any more poison, so to speak.

  5. Obstructing? by linuxmop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That's pretty cute, the use of "obstructing" in the summary. Usually when I hear the word obstructing it is in phrases like "obstructing justice." Obstructing is usually something the criminals do. The word has picked up a pretty negative connotation.

    But here, we have HBO obstructing the downloading of their copyrighted material. HBO is obstructing copyright violation. Would you say that a lock obstructs breaking and entering? Or that self defense obstructs assault? Perhaps good server administration obstructs the stealing of private data. Of course you wouldn't say that. It sounds silly. So why is HBO obstructing downloads?

  6. HBO's Actions by postsingularity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    are understandable since Rome is their big subscription pitch for the moment. If they can frustrate DLers enough to pay for a subscription, buy or rent the dvd, then they can profit. While many opinionated slashdotters will scoff and say people should boycott HBO, fact of the matter is most people's convictions aren't so strong that they will throw away the time invested in watching the earlier episode. On a positive note, the fact that HBO has some sense of what is going on technologically means that they are that much closer to offering download services of their own.

  7. They are giving away DVD's of Rome by Von+Rex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I started watching Rome after a friend got an unsolicited DVD from HBO in his mail that had the first episode of Rome. I really liked it and wanted to get into the series, but it's the kind of show where you have to watch the episodes in order. So I had no choice but to download the first five episodes from my commerical usenet feed :)

    I did however watch the sixth episode "regularly" on HBO, so I guess their tactic gained them a viewer. Then I immediately downloaded that episode so I could have a complete collection. Next Sunday, I'll probably be on my couch watching the seventh episode as it airs. And then I'll download it, too.

    I'm not sure what the moral of this post is. Perhaps that "pirates" and legitimate customers are more closely intertwined than the simplistic among us would like to admit.

  8. Re:azereus! by speeDDemon+(nw) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Azureus also has a plugin called SafePeer that automagically downloads a list of 'bad' IPs. Currently there are about 117,000 banned IPs in my block list, and I get good solid download speeds. Could also just add the HBO range of IP address's to the block list, thus their clients will be ignored completely.

  9. vigilante justice by idlake · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What HBO is doing is what every business should be doing instead of taking the RIAA's route.

    That's called "vigilante justice", and there are laws against it. Maybe HBO's particular denial of service attack on BitTorrent is both harmless and specific in this case, but the next attempt at vigilante justice may end up shutting down the OpenSuSE distribution as a side effect.

    HBO's actions amount to computer hacking and denial of service, and they should be treated as such by the legal system. On the other hand, if HBO wishes to claim copyright infringement, they should bring legal cases; nobody other than a court of law can determine whether copyright infringement has taken place.

  10. Hash collisions by acb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does BitTorrent use MD5 or SHA1 for computing hashes? How computationally feasible would it be for an organisation on the scale of Time Warner to poison torrents with bogus chunks whose hashes check out correctly? (Could they do it with a few powerful machines? What about a SETI@Home-style distributed-computing application running in the background on all corporate desktops?) If they did that, downloaders would not find out that the file was bogus until they downloaded the whole thing; such a tactic could render BitTorrent unusable for poisoned shows.

  11. Re:The low bastards! by tdemark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm sure the executives at HBO are thinking the same thing about people who have the ability to pay for HBO yet won't.

    They are probably thinking "Premium cable was a lot easier when all you had to worry about was Captain Midnight."