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Google Goes to Washington

DIY News writes "Google has hired a lobbyist in Washington D.C. to influence the nation's laws governing the Internet, telecommunications and copyrights. Google sees a presence in Washington as a necessity as government becomes more involved in the Net's development. Among its efforts, the government has worked to shield private U.S. companies from demands by the United Nations and other countries for multilateral control of the Net."

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  1. coming soon! by isecore · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google.gov coming to a website near you!

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  2. And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Google googles google. Google is not just a search engine. Google features many excellent services such as Google Mail, Google Froogol, Google Maps, Google Woogle, Google Choogle and Google McNoogle. Google is implementing a new alternative to Paypal. Google is building their own internet to replace the existing one. Google is releasing a new office suite. Google is releasing their own brand of Linux. Googley woogley woo!

  3. They'll be lonely by republican+gourd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A progressive company with fairly reasonable takes on copyright and employment that isn't going to be lobbying from a position of entitlement-because-we've-always-made-money-the-sa me-way? They'll be so lonely... Nobody will want to get drunk on the steps of the Capitol with them except the Kennedy's.

  4. Quite frankly by twiztidlojik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Quite frankly, I'm surprised a company with that kind of revenue stream DIDN'T have a lobbyist in washington.

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  5. I'm confused...... by ZiakII · · Score: 5, Funny

    So this week is google good or evil.... I can never keep up.....

    1. Re:I'm confused...... by Lucractius · · Score: 5, Informative

      lets add it up.

      Google Goes To Washington
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/08/133223 &tid=217&tid=103
      well it might be nice for someone to be doing no evil there for a change so ... thumbs up

      Google Launches Google Reader at Web 2.0
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/07/195225 4&tid=217&tid=1
      Cool new google app ... Thumbs Up

      Google Maps Graduates
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/07/142025 8&tid=217
      SOmething comes out og Beta Testing... Thumbs Up

      Google Declares War on Microsoft
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/06/125021 5&tid=217&tid=109
      War on Microsoft, THUMBS UP

      Taiwan Irked at Google's Version of Earth
      http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/ 04/1655204&tid=217&tid=219
      Pissing off chinese... Thumbs Down

      Google & Sun Planning Web Office
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/04/123422 9&tid=102&tid=217
      Hype but none the less a pretty big deal going down with sun... Shrug

      Google Office Still in the Wings?
      http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/03/105 7258&tid=185&tid=217&tid=218
      Awesome Idea (even though it didnt happen) ... Thumbs Up

      Google-NASA Partnership Backlash
      http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/ 02/0023257&tid=217&tid=219
      Possibly not doing no evil... Thumbs down

      Google Ant
      http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/0 1/1714241&tid=217&tid=14
      mmmm Taxonomical Fun... Thumbs Up

      Google Plans to Offer Free WiFi in San Francisco
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/131620 5&tid=217&tid=193
      Free Wifi.. Thumbs Up

      Google's Patents Reveal Strategy To Beat Microsoft
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/01/083123 4&tid=217&tid=187&tid=109
      Kicking MS... Thumbs up.

      Well it seems based on the statistics... We still like google this week... stay tuned next week folks :D

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    2. Re:I'm confused...... by FhnuZoag · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, but not evil compared to what?

      We need an unified evilness index, with weekly rankings. Then we can convert between evils: e.g.

      1 Microsoft = 10000 Googles
      1 Dubya = 1.5 Microsoft

      etc

  6. You used to be cool, Google. by BillyBlaze · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Before everyone can complain about Slashdot's irrational love for Google, let me make it known that it's coming to an end, at least for me. My biggest complaint about Microsoft hasn't really been so much about poor software that doesn't obey standards, or horrible market practices, but that they're actively spending huge amounts of money to influence the Government of my country in ways that directly benefit them, at my expense. It's a sad fact that money has a huge influence on government, and that Bill Gates has more influence on government that probably thousands of regular voters combined. Google used to be above all this, but if they're not?

    Granted they haven't done anything yet. But simply by buying governments, they make it so that in order not to be evil, their politics have to agree with mine, which means they won't agree with someone else. And why would they agree with me? Hiring lobyists is clearly the kind of thing they had to do to placate shareholders, who only care about money and would see nothing wrong if Google elected a president to do nothing but take money from poor people and give it to Google. It seems like because of this effect, it's really hard for a publicly traded company to stay "Non-Evil" (tm) for long.

    1. Re:You used to be cool, Google. by Peet42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hold that thought...

      But remember, it's also possible that Google will lobby to have unworkable copyright/intellectual property laws revoked, break up the teleco's stranglehold over cheap bandwidth, prevent the movie industry from dictating what you do with the DVD player you just bought or a myriad of other things that the US Gov't currently votes on without being particularly well-informed on the subject.

      Me, I'll wait and see what happens before I start complaining. :)

    2. Re:You used to be cool, Google. by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Insightful

      but that they're actively spending huge amounts of money to influence the Government of my country in ways that directly benefit them

      Does it every occur to you that Microsoft is thousands of people and millions of investors? Grandmothers, pension funds, yuppies, and plenty of Google and Novel investors also own their piece of MS. MS is people, just like Google is, GM is, and the mom and pop coffee shop down the street is. Why on earth would a company that has so much at stake, with hundreds of millions of customers around the world, not want to look out for itself within the context of how the government that's regulating the economy frames things? I wouldn't want to invest in, or base my business operations around products built/serviced by a company that doesn't care what the business climate looks like, or is willing to be steamrolled by the noisiest person that doesn't like them.

      Hiring lobyists is clearly the kind of thing they had to do to placate shareholders, who only care about money and would see nothing wrong if Google elected a president to do nothing but take money from poor people and give it to Google.

      "Clearly?" Is that really, really clear to you? And out of curiosity, how does a president go about taking money from poor people? Does he have pictures of all of the congressional reps and senators with goats or something? The president can't take money from anybody. He can't write tax law, he can't appropriate money. The only thing he can, within narrow bounds, direct cabinet officials to work within the framework established by congress to spend, or not spend as much, on certain domestic things. Not putting as much money into some specialized entitlement give-away is not the same as taking money "from" poor people.

      Regardless: our current form of government would be pointless without a functioning economy. The economy completely depends upon employment and productivity. Those companies (like Google) that have a major role to play in productivity can and should make sure that they're heard by people who are working on laws and regulations that impact how they, their employees, their users, and industry do what they do. It's not "buying" government to make yourself heard or to make sure that people with a rational clue about what you do are responsible for the legal framework within which it's done. Doing nothing about it - the opposite of the employees and owners/investors in a company "buying" that voice - is the positve act of giving away that voice to someone else. You know, like to someone who thinks the internet is nothing but a porn vehicle and should be shut down, etc. Would you rather than Google stay at arm's length from politics and give up ground to crazies? I wouldn't.

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  7. Opening an office != Hiring a lobbyist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article title is misleading. Google has had lobbyists on tap in Washington for quite awhile. Google is is also a member of trade groups (e.g. - NetCoalition) which do a substantial amount of lobbying on behalf of the search/tech/ad/etc industries. They're opening an actual government relations office now - a big step up from hiring a few lobbyists who split their time with other clients.

    Senate lobbying disclosures here.
    House lobbying disclosures here.

  8. Google Blog Link and Content by lababidi · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2005/10/google-goes -to-washington.html
    Google goes to Washington

    10/06/2005 07:09:00 AM
    Posted by Andrew McLaughlin, Senior Policy Counsel

    It seems that policymaking and regulatory activity in Washington, D.C. affect Google and our users more every day. It's important to be involved - to participate in the policy process and contribute to the debates that inform it. So we've opened up a shop there. The first member of our Washington team is Alan Davidson, a veteran thinker and advocate for issues we care about.

    Our mission in Washington boils down to this: Defend the Internet as a free and open platform for information, communication and innovation. OK, that sounds a little high and mighty, so let me break it down into something a bit wonkier with a sampling of the U.S. policy issues we're working on:

    Net neutrality. As voice, video, and data rapidly converge, Congress is rewriting U.S. telecommunications laws and deregulating broadband connectivity, which is largely a good thing. But in a country where most citizens have only one or two viable broadband options, there are real dangers for the Internet: Should network operators be able to block their customers from reaching competing websites and services (such as Internet voice calls and video-on-demand)? Should they be able to speed up their own sites and services, while degrading those offered by competitors? Should an innovator with a new online service or application be forced to get permission from each broadband cable and DSL provider before rolling it out? Or, if that's not blunt enough for you, what's better: [a] Centralized control by network operators, or [b] free user choice on the decentralized, open, and astoundingly successful end-to-end Internet? (Hint: It's not [a].)

    Copyrights and fair use. Google believes in protecting copyrights while maintaining strong, viable fair use rights in this new digital age. We support efforts by the U.S. Copyright Office to facilitate the use of orphan works (works whose rights-holders can't be found), while fully respecting the interests of creators. We applauded the Supreme Court's carefully calibrated decision in the Grokster case, but worked to defeat legislation that would have created new forms of liability for neutral technologies and services like Google.

    Intermediary liability. As a search engine, Google crawls the Internet, gathering information everywhere we can find it. We're a neutral tool that allows users to find information posted by others - like a continuously updated table of contents for the Internet. Not surprisingly, we don't believe the Internet works well if intermediaries and ISPs are held liable for things created by others but made searchable through us. That's why Google will continue to oppose efforts to force us to block or limit lawful speech; instead, we focus on providing users the information, tools, and features (such as SafeSearch) they need to protect themselves online.

    This is just a taste. We're also engaged in policy debates over privacy and spyware, trademark dilution, patent law reform, voice-over-Internet-protocol (VOIP) regulation, and more. The Internet policy world is fluid, so our priorities will surely morph over time. And, of course, Google is a global company. In a future post, we'll introduce you to some of the policy issues we're confronting outside the U.S.

  9. Not Making Microsoft's Mistake by donnacha · · Score: 5, Insightful
    One of the biggest mistakes Microsoft made was not realizing early enough that they needed to pump a substantial slice of their pie to DC. If they had had an astute lobbyist on the ground, making "campaign contributions" to both sides, there never would have been a government investigation, they wouldn't have lost momentum through having their attention diverted and their public image wouldn't have taken quite such a beating - who will ever forget the belligerent attitude of Gates' deposition, who could have failed to smile at the embarrassing memos that were trawled up?

    As a side note for non-US citizens: in America corruption has been legalized in the form of campaign contributions. To get elected, politicians must spend vast sums of money on TV advertising. The airwaves that get TV to the masses nominally belong to "the people" but are sold off to major corporations such as GE for a pittance. The corportations then create programming that desperately pursues a mass audience (i.e. quality is not enough, as in the case of Firefly, cancelled before even finishing it's 1st season). The corporations then sell that mass audience back to the politicians in the form of short adverts. The adverts are extremely expensive but the experience of the past half century has consistently shown that the frequency of adverts has a vital role in winning office.

    This is great for the corporations because, far more importantly than the revenue that they earn from this exploding advertising spend, it means that no politician has a realistic chance of getting into power unless he is getting lots of corporate campaign contributions (corporate contributions dwarf personal) and, therefore, no representative of the people will ever be able to truly work in the people's interests. Both of the main American parties are equally dependent on this system and, therefore, the only real differences that can exist between them are presentational.

    The problem with Microsoft was that they got big so quickly that they didn't have time to take the hint and assume their role in this particular circle of corruption. One of the first things they did when the Clinton administration turned on them was to hire the most expensive lobbyists they could find and start spraying contributions in all directions., guaranteeing that next adminstration, Republican or Democrat, would step down the legal attack.

    Google is making sure that they don't make the same mistake.

  10. You joke, but.... by clark625 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm in the Army currently, and my office computer has access to a bunch of Department of Defense internal networks that suposedly has all the data I could ever want. The problem is it's poorly indexed. So, if I need a particular obscure form or technical manual, it can be near impossible to find. What scares me is that I can often go to Google and find the data I want (or at least a link to a secure server with the data).

    google.gov may seem silly to those in the private sector... but if Google did index private government and military sites, and allowed access only to authorized individuals, I wouldn't complain. Heck, I'd be happy at my new efficiency.

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    1. Re:You joke, but.... by generic-man · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Couldn't the various agencies get Google Search Appliances and then enable searching across all their various networks?

      (Google would be done faster than the government anyway, even after Google's mandatory 6-year beta period.)

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    2. Re:You joke, but.... by Stonehand · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Do Google's search algorithms make sense for an intranet in which you probably don't have quite the diversity of link counts? On the web, you have pages which have massive in-links and pages which have extremely few, but on an intranet, is that a reliably available and reasonable indicator of authority?

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    3. Re:You joke, but.... by Kiaser+Wilhelm+II · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I dont know how the search appliances work differently than Google.com, but what I do know is that they work damned well at our company for indexing informration just like Google.com does for the whole net.

      If Google is marketing these appliances at various sized companies, then I would imagine they would have taken the time to make the algorithims appropriate for the target audience.

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  11. congressmen going cheap, three for a dollar by peterjhill2002 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not a huge deal people... Yes, lobbyists can be bad... I don't know who is looked up to more... pimps, used car salesmen, crack dealers, or lobbyists... ... but... eff also has lobbyists, there has to be some linux centered lobbyists around d.c... it is a sad fact that money buys power and our congress is cheap.. I am surprised though it took this long to get google to have a three person office inside the beltway...

    I just hope they can stop some of the insane things that other lobbyist try to put through.. like flags on digital tv content... bad congresscritter bad... sit in a corner in timeout for two minutes.

  12. It doesn't mention it, he was trolling by NigelJohnstone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    http://googleblog.blogspot.com/

    "Net neutrality. As voice, video, and data rapidly converge, Congress is rewriting U.S. telecommunications laws and deregulating broadband connectivity, which is largely a good thing. But in a country where most citizens have only one or two viable broadband options, there are real dangers for the Internet: Should network operators be able to block their customers from reaching competing websites and services (such as Internet voice calls and video-on-demand)? Should they be able to speed up their own sites and services, while degrading those offered by competitors? Should an innovator with a new online service or application be forced to get permission from each broadband cable and DSL provider before rolling it out? Or, if that's not blunt enough for you, what's better: [a] Centralized control by network operators, or [b] free user choice on the decentralized, open, and astoundingly successful end-to-end Internet? (Hint: It's not [a].)"

  13. The Advent Of Liberation Of Knowledge Is Nigh by mercedo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a very good constructive initiative. The price of book in paper includes cost to bind a book, cost of paper, printing, and then loyalty of copyright. In the age of the Internet almost limitless proliferation of copyrighted materials can be done, the price of book should exclude other than loyalty of copyright. I hope the price of knowledge's going to be much cheaper than the price of book in paper. Welcome.

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  14. Quick Question by cgenman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does he get to lobby for whatever he wants one day a week?

  15. Re:Google Goes to Washington by nicodaemos · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... remember the Evil Empire brought you Home PC's Free Internet browsers, Human Friendly Operating systems etc ...

    Well, actually

    a) IBM created the home PC market
    b) NCSA Mosaic and Netscape first provided free browsers
    c) Apple created the first Human Friendly OS

    The only part MS played in these were

    a) Good marketing and creative legal contract negotiating
    b) Copying the competition and using their OS monopoly to push their own product
    c) Copying the competition and using their App - OS relationship to aggressively kill off the competition ... yeah they don't stick to Standards, but again they mostly do the standard and more as most of the little tricks that MS put in are then adopted by Open Source Developers ...

    You need to expand your mind more and read things other than what Microsoft's propaganda machine puts out. This is just not true. ... don't get me wrong, I don't support MS i have just been the the business long enough to remember what it was like before Windows.

    For someone who "remembers", you seem to have little knowledge of the facts.

    Microsoft is not considered the Evil Empire for making money ... it's the simple fact that innovation to them, means using creative marketing and legal tactics to conquer a market. The engineering of the product (what the customer most cares about) is inconsequential and not pursued. This ensures they get to maintain their 80% margins in their monopoly businesses. Create buggy OS, shove it down user's throats, repeat for next version.

    I just don't get why some people allow themselves to be repeatedly victimized by a crappy vendor and instead of calling them on it, actually choose to defend them.

  16. Re:Google Goes to Washington by mcc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah OK Microsoft is the Evil empire, but remember the Evil Empire brought you Home PC's Free Internet browsers, Human Friendly Operating systems etc..

    Microsoft would certainly like you to think so.

    However anyone who was actually around when these things first appeared remember things more like this:

    People other than Microsoft brought us home PCs, free internet browsers, human friendly operating systems etc; and then Microsoft hijacked these things, and made it impossible for anyone else to become powerful in those markets.

    I am quite confident that if Microsoft ever does defeat google, ten years later people will be ardently insisting Microsoft invented the search engine.

  17. Google already has an EU lobbyist by FlorianMueller · · Score: 3, Interesting
    In the build-up to the European Parliament's second-reading vote, a Google lobbyist also became active in Brussels (the de-facto capital of the EU). Patricia Moll previously worked for Microsoft as Government Affairs Manager. If you search for her name on Google in connection with Microsoft's name, you can still find various articles and other references.

    Since Google had not been involved in the earlier stages of the debate on that European software patent directive, they didn't want to publicly state their position on that controversial issue. However, Patricia was in close contact with the FFII, a non-governmental organization that opposes software patents, as well as some companies that were at least somewhat critical of software patents.

    It seems that Google mostly lobbied for a far-reaching interoperability privilege. That's important to them so they can, for instance, perform certain operations on PDF files as part of their search services. Some people said that Google was also critical of the idea to legalize software patents in Europe, and that may have been the case, but none of the MEPs who I asked was able to confirm that Google took a critical position on software patents (I didn't ask that question to many politicians, so the fact that no one confirmed it may not mean much).