Slashdot Mirror


PBS Features Einstein's Famous Equation

porp writes "On Tuesday, October 11th at 8PM EDT, PBS will feature a docudrama about Einstein's discovery of his famous E=mc^2 equation. The program will include details explaining those who came before him and the development of his miracle year. The pinnacle of which according to the program was his discovery that matter and energy are two sides of the same coin. Yahoo summarizes the program details in length." From the article: "Based on David Bodanis' best-seller 'E=mc2: A Biography of the World's Most Famous Equation,' the program explores the lives of the men and women who helped develop concepts behind each term: E for energy; m for mass; c for the speed of light; and 2 for 'squared,' the multiplication of one number by itself."

14 of 176 comments (clear)

  1. Get the formula right. by Pudusplat · · Score: 4, Informative

    E = [(p2c2) + m2c4]1/2

    --
    "If you put butter and salt on it, it tastes like salty butter." -Terry Pratchet, on Popcorn.
    1. Re:Get the formula right. by pmj · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you are going to be pedantic, you should at least put in the right form of the equation.
      E=[(pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2]^(1/2)

      --
      Are you BioCurious?
    2. Re:Get the formula right. by aktzin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The anonymous post above already mentioned that p is for momentum and the equation is framed in a way that accounts for quantum mechanics, not just classical (Newtonian) physics. I found a good explanation here:

      http://encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Mass

      Scroll about halfway down to the section header "Relativistic relation among mass, energy and momentum".

      By the way, IANAP (I am not a physicist) but I had fun taking physics in college as part of my computer science requirements. And by funny coincidence this post is actually related to my sig. I don't remember where I first saw that (it was in college many moons ago). I always thought it was funny and clever, a good tip of the hat to Mr. Shakespeare, and a good way to describe the universe.
      --
      Quantum mechanics: the dreams that stuff is made of.
    3. Re:Get the formula right. by mako1138 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Note that the page you mention is a mirror of the Wikipedia article on mass. And it doesn't really have anything to do with quantum mechanics - we are taught non-relativistic (and time-independent) QM in undergrad courses.

      The main things to take from E^2 - (pc)^2 = (mc^2)^2:

      1. Set the mass m equal to 0. We get E = pc, or p = E/c. Thus momentum is defined for massless particles in special relativity. Newtonian mechanics can't handle this correctly.

      2. Set the momentum p equal to 0. We get E = mc^2, popularly known as energy-mass equivalence. There's subtleties to it, though; see Relativistic mass.

  2. Meaning of "summarises program details in length" by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does this mean it tells you how long the program lasts? Or does it perhaps indicate that E=mc^2 contains six characters? Surely the editors would have picked up on nonsense implying a lengthy precis of the program.

  3. Re:last part of write-up was great by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    You geeks are always upset when people explain technical details like "squared". That's why the business majors of the world have to tell you what to do! If you majored in business, you would not have learned useless concepts like "squared" and you would understand why the general public needs this explained to them.

    As to why would someone be interested in E=mc^2 without knowing the concept of "squared", you obviously don't understand business. We can't limit the target audience of our movie to only the few people who know about "squared".

    --
    Avoid Missing Ball for High Score
  4. True origin of the famous equation (Far Side) by macklin01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your desk is all squared away. Yep, all squaaaaaaaaaaaared away. (I couldn't find an image to link to--sorry!

    --
    OpenSource.MathCancer.org: open source comp bio
  5. WTF @ summary by Sartak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is, ostensibly, a site which features news for nerds. If you can show me a true nerd who doesn't know what E=mc^2 represents, or even what ^2 means, then I will weep. Couldn't the submitter use something a little more interesting to us?

  6. Animaniacs by thebdj · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone knows that it was the Wacko Brothers and their sister Dot selling kid scout cookies to Einstein that helped him create E=mc^2, by singing the Acme song.

    --
    "Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb."
  7. Re:Is this new? by mailman-zero · · Score: 3, Informative

    The torrent is here.

    I checked this out a few weeks ago. It's really an interesting show depicting some of the greats that preceeded Einstein as well.

    --
    Let's play video games with mailmanZERO
  8. I've seen this already I think by FunkyRat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If this is the same program as this Channel4 production, then I highly recommend it. Although undoubtedly it has nothing to offer the Slashdot crowd from a science standpoint, the human face it puts on scientists we all too often only know from their work is excellent.

  9. Rest Mass by Joffy · · Score: 4, Informative

    People should realize that the M in e=mc^2 is not the widely known idea of mass. Most people think that a bowling ball that weighs 10 pounds has a set mass no matter what. But in Einstein's equation mass is more like inertia. A moving bowling ball has more mass than one at rest. So you can not simply take a 10 kilogram object and multiply it by the speed of light squared to get its energy. This means you must first complete the equation for m first, which I do not know off hand.

    So the idea of mass that most people know is called rest mass. It took me a while to realize that they meant an object could increase mass but gain no atoms or extra "material". Since most objects we can see and touch don't even go 1% the speed of light, we never notice this increase. For almost all practical cases(even a plan going mach 3) we can consider its mass to be rest mass and still be accurate to within many many decimal places.

  10. "varying" speeds of light by Quadraginta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The symbol c in the subject equation, and generally, stands for the speed of light in a vacuum, 299792452 meters/second. In any other medium light travels slower than c, by a factor equal to the inverse of the index of refraction. Id est, for water the index of refraction is about 4/3, so light travels through water 3/4 as fast as it does through vacuum.

    While people may have set up interesting media through which light travels at some odd speed, no one has ever observed light traveling through a vacuum at other than c. Indeed, it's a bedrock principle of relativity that it cannot.

    Interestingly, the eerie blue glow you see coming from nuclear reactor cores that live at the bottom of pools of water (called Cerenkov radiation) is emitted by particles coming from the core that are traveling faster than the speed of light in water (although of course slower than c). The blue light is a sort of "optic boom" similar in its origin to the "sonic boom" you hear from aircraft exceeding the speed of sound.

  11. It's a semantics, the formula WAS right by Newton+IV · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nah, the formula is right E=mc^2, except the mass m is the RELATIVISTIC mass, defined as m_0/sqrt(1-(v/c)^2). m_0 here is the mass of the body at rest. But indeed, the rest mass m_0 is a better quantity to use. See for example http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/S R/mass.html