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Not Just Playing House

RexDart writes "Tom's Hardware has posted an interview with the founders of PMS Clan, the high-profile, international female gaming group with the mission of 'providing a fun and competitive environment for female gamers in a wide variety of first person shooter' games. They speak out on topics from how to get started and what to play, clan organization, censorship, online harrassment, and the role of female characters in games. Plus, why and how they allow males in their group as well."

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  1. A/S/L by Associate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a handfull of girl gamers on the server I play on. Some are even hot. But they don't try to exploit the fact that they are female. And I wouldn't have that much respect for them if they did. I have found that they prefer not to be treated different. They want to shoot things up, not answer asl's. Conversely, I've seen male players with seemingly female names greatly disappoint their teammates.

    This is not insightful, it's obvious. Is there a mod for that?

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  2. Re:Interesting article, but... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "We're women, we game, don't objectify us"

    I read the article, and looked at their webpage. I do not recall anything about them not wanting to be desirable or objectified. Perhaps you came up with that feminist stereotype on your own or I just missed that part. If men can't take women seriously when they (women) look good that is the man's hangup not the woman's.

    Do you take a man more seriously if he is wearing tattered jeans and wrinkled tee-shirt or a business suit?

    I agree that PMS is a corny name for a clan. But gaming isn't all that serious of an endeavor. It is no sillier than a FART clan or . It reminded me of the bumper sticker quote, "I have PMS and a handgun, any questions?". So hey, I think it's funny in an off color way.

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  3. Re:Interesting article, but... by -pms-mistletoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Frag Dolls are a small, high-profile, sponsored clan. I wasn't using it as a derogatory remark towards the sort of girls so disparaged in these threads -- for example, the girls who apparently only say they like games to get guys. (Not that I've ever met any girls like that!)

    Some of our members are also Frag Dolls, and they're the scariest, craziest, most hardcore gaming ladies you'll ever meet. Just make sure you're not the wrong end of their SMGs...

    As for any division in our ranks, well; we all love games, and we all spend a lot of our time playing them. Obviously, as with any large number of women with common interests, you'll find all sorts of different types of people. But we're all gamers first, girls second, despite whatever angles the press might try to take. It seems the gaming press can't get enough of the whole girl gamer thing.

    I'm personally off to the Women's Game Conference in a couple of weeks to see what all the fuss is about...

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  4. Re:Corporate-sponsored feminism by Saige · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If these women so obsessed with being treated equally, why do they so deliberately differentiate themselves from the pack, and still expect to be treated just like one of the guys?

    Mistake #1 - we don't WANT to be "one of the guys". To suggest that implies that gaming is your territory, and that we need your "permission" to be allowed to play. And that's total bullshit.

    I want to make it clear I'm a girl so that guys can be aware that we do play. Some guys are fine with it, and it quickly becomes just my gamertag, and they don't even see it as an issue. And the ones that make a big deal about it, well, I'm happy to know they'll remember they were beaten by a girl, cause surely their ego needs such a beating.

    Is this a case of women wanting to be more than equal?

    Let's wait until we're at least equal before wondering about things like this, please.

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