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Matt Asay on the Status of OSS

OSS_ilation writes "An interview with OSBC director Matt Asay at SearchOpenSource.com gives some insight into where open source software (OSS) has been, is today, and where it hopes to be in the future. A common trend identified by Asay in the interview is that OSS has become very profitable. Asay also touched on the hot-button issue of where the GPL is headed, as well as how open source vendors shouldn't let high download rates give them a big head about the real validity of their projects."

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  1. Summation by Kylere · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If people use it, you can make money from it.
    If people download it, it does not mean they are using it.

    Funny, but I already knew that. Now I just have to find something people will use besides Video Fish :-)

  2. Snort and Nessus by Cally · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the week that Nessus went closed source, spitting in the face of all those who helped the project thinking it was free software, let's hope that the Gnessus project (based on the last Free version of Nessus) takes off, and that the continuing-Free Snort and Nmap continue to flourish. The progress of Sourcefire and Snort will be particularly interesting to compare with that of Tenable (Renaud's company) since Marty Roesch has been clear that Sourcefire (his company) being bought by Checkpoint won't affect Snort, which will continue to be Free software under the GPL.

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    1. Re:Snort and Nessus by bladesjester · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree about the double edged nature of open source software. People ask me what the benefits in open sourcing their software is and if they can still make money on it.

      My answer tends to be if you plan to make most of your money on support, training, specialized implementations, setup, etc then you've got a chance. If the only thing you're bringing to the table is the software itself, then opening it doesn't make a lot of sense.

      I sort of walk a line of being a buisnessperson and an open source advocate. Sometimes it's a hard line to walk, but we do what we can.

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  3. A Lesson for RIAA ... by slashbob22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because someone downloads music, doesn't mean they listen to the crap...

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  4. Source of revenue...? by sczimme · · Score: 4, Insightful


    [I did RTFA, though it's entirely possible I missed something.]

    Mr. Asay did not clarify the distinction between revenue from product sales and revenue from support and other services. He mentioned Red Hat as an example of an OSS company that is making money, but he didn't indicate how much of that money came from selling RHEL and other products vice the consulting, etc. that RH also offers. He alludes to it briefly when he says "OSS has trended toward examples like the Red Hat Network and the MySQL network" but leaves it at that.

    This is not a slam on Asay, btw; it's just something I thought would make the article more useful.

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  5. Re:Professionalism in the open source world. by CyricZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree, nobody should be forced to contribute to an open source project. But then again, I think there is a certail level of honour that the developers of a larger project (such as KOffice or KDE) must show. That's not to say that they have to suck up to their users, or anything of that sort. What they should not do, however, is blatantly insult users in public while mentioning their contributions to said projects.

    There's a minimum standard, and that particular developer sunk below it in that particular instance. Intentional or not, it did reflect poorly on the entire project, including all of those individuals who have been extremely helpful in the past. If anything, such insults are more disrespectful to those with the KDE project who have helped built its fantastic image, rather than to the person the insults were directed towards.

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  6. Re:Professionalism in the open source world. by CyricZ · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The fact that it's moderated +5 shows that professionalism is a concept that many in the open source community fail to grasp. Now, that doesn't surprise me in a way. The community itself has academic roots, and many members do not have the experience necessary to understand professionalism.

    If you follow that particular discussion back far enough, you would clearly see that that KOffice developer was incorrect with respect to his basic points. Follow it forwards and you'll see him blame his inappropriate behaviour on a headache. Either way, such behavior is inexcusable. It shouldn't fly here, and it would never fly in a business setting.

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  7. Re:Professionalism in the open source world. by SalsaDoom · · Score: 0, Insightful

    *LOL*

    And true professionalism means telling an idiot when he's being an idiot, not yes-manning the customer because they're the customer. That's what unscrupulous profiteers do.

    What fuckin job do you have buddy?

    In the -real world- where us real people with real jobs live and work, we do what our unscrupulous profiteer bosses tell us to do or we become fired in a fast and unpleasent way. Our customers are very often total idiots, they don't know their hands from their asses, but if we told them that, they'd call up our bosses and complain -- and boom -- your fired. The customer will occasionally get a retarded idea you just have to let him implement his stupidity before he realizes the error of his ways. Then, and only then, can you implement the correct way without losing your job.

    Thats the way things work in reality. "Professionalism" as you describe it, is a luxury of upper management, the rest of us have to content ourselves with the knowledge that we are doing the best we can with the bullshit that we have.

    --SD

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  8. OSS has been profitably for very few by AutopsyReport · · Score: 3, Insightful
    An OSS company being profitable is a rarity. For every OSS company and every OSS developer, the chances of profitability are slim. Contrast this with a typical proprietary software company, and there simply is no comparison.

    When more than a select few companies (only three listed) prove to be capable of pulling a profit, then I'd call it a trend. But considering that most open source development teams pursue their software with little to no financing, it's far too early to even call this a trend. I'd call this the beginnings of a foundation that may begin to include other viable open source products.

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    1. Re:OSS has been profitably for very few by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The simple truth is that most new businesses (something like 2/3 or 3/4) fail. It doesn't really matter what field they're in, most of them tank. The thing with basing a business around open source software is that you can't really expect your money to come from the software itself, but rather you have to find something to leverage with the software (services, hardware devices, support, etc).

      Every business has pitfalls. This one just happens to have some weird ones.

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