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IBM Donates Parts of Rational to Open Source

slashbob22 writes "IBM has decided to contribute portions of the Rational Unified Process to the Eclipse Foundation. From the article: 'RUP is a vast collection of methods and best practices for promoting quality and efficiency throughout software development projects. IBM's donation will also provide a foundation architecture and Web-based tools for the industry to engineer, collaborate on, share and reuse software development best practices.'"

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  1. heh by Ooblek · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you can't sell it....DONATE IT!!!

  2. The Rational Unified Process is excelent by ElMiguel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's why Rational Rose is such an efficient, consistent, bug-free software.
    </sarcasm>

    I don't know about other people's experiences, but some of the worst pieces of software I've ever used have been CASE tools (you know the type: UML, lifecycle, etc). Kinds of make you question the usefulness of those tools and processes.

    1. Re:The Rational Unified Process is excelent by arudloff · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kinds of make you question the usefulness of those tools and processes.

      If your relying on the tools, then your probably missing the point of the process. Tools can aid you in the process, but a process doesn't require tools (not even a commercial 'product' like RUP).

  3. Re:This is VERY GOOD news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    You DO know that this is about the "Rational Unified Process" and NOT Rational Rose, right? RUP is the development process that Rational tries to sell you on when you sell you the Rose UML tool. If you buy into RUP, they can manage to send you tons of consultants and sell you even more costly software.

    RUP is a step up from the Waterfall model, but it's certainly not the greatest thing out there.

  4. OK OK I'll admit it -- coders are LAZY my friend by Work+Account · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Look, we are and I'll admit that. I'm not afraid to criticize myself and other developers:

    - Me and other coders are often eager to jump right into projects instead of designing them thoroughly (using RUP for example)
    - Other coders and I often get bored after I figure out the hard part and say the rest is trivial

    It's more of a work ethic. Also, my friends in the gaming industry (Electronic Arts(tm) for example) work 60-80 hour weeks, so it's understandable that they seek out shortcuts.

    Let's agree to work a little harder and/or smarter and not skimp on design! USE RATIONAL!

    --

    If you "get" pointers add me as a friend (116)!
  5. Re:Huh? by arudloff · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People try to make RUP into more than it is. The idea is to take and leave what works for your organization, and build a loose process around it. It's a framework for generating your own applicable process, and all too often companies want to do everything that RUP tells them to do (ignorning the fact that RUP tells you not to do everything..)

    What really needs to be taken from RUP is the idea that an iterative approach reduces risk of failure. The concept of "roles" is helpful, but thats just basic teamwork.

  6. Re:OK OK I'll admit it -- coders are LAZY my frien by SlowMovingTarget · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, I have personally used the RUP successfully. The success was in spite of the process, not because of it. The excellent people I had on my team made the work a success, and not a paperwork-on-rails approach to software development.

    On the upside, the RUP is geared toward control of iterative projects. On the downside, it treats every diagram you draw as though it were as valuable as the working software you really intend to produce. It also adds artificial divisions between roles in the process (the architect sends X to the analyst who elaborates it and sends it on to the developer who extrudes Y...). It tends to reduce communication among team members, and between team members and stakeholders. It's original intent seems to have been to give all the diagrams in the UML a reason for being (and by extension, Rose).

    Show me a failing unit test and I'll show you a low-level design awaiting implementation. Running code trumps "managed artifacts" any day.

  7. Irrational by yintercept · · Score: 4, Funny

    Giving away half a product away may not seem rational, but it is shrewd. You have the engine, would you like to buy the key.

    As for for the decision to give half the product away, I understand IBM was thinking of giving away the square root of the product away ... Now, THAT would have been irrational.

  8. Re:OK OK I'll admit it -- coders are LAZY my frien by jdray · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While what I understand of RUP is that it tends to go overboard with extreme implementation of basic ideas, the root of their labor division is in the excellent practice of not allowing one coder to push his code changes all the way through to distribution without some amount of validation by another set of eyes.

    I'm part of the enterprise change control staff at my company, and I can tell you that the more tightly we implement controls, the more often we discover that the problems that arise are from developers implementing untested changes without authorization. If you force them to submit change documents, and don't let the changes get into the code base until the change has been authorized (for that matter, don't let them code until the change has been authorized), then have someone else test the changed software before the code gets pushed up, you've got a three-legged stool to stand on, and you have an auditable process that maintains accountability.

    I bet if you look at the submission process of any successful open source project, you'll find the same constructs, maybe just not called out so formally. The basic ideas aren't bad, just some implementations. RUP gives you a framework to design your procedures with.

    --
    The Spoon
    Updated 6/28/2011
  9. Re:+6 insightful if you will by Taladar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Did it ever occur to you that a language that needs auto-generated code is fundamentally flawed (too low-level)?