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Space Tourism?

Cave_Monster wonders: "With the successful return to earth by Gregory Olson, the US businessman who allegedly paid around £11m for his trip, what are people's thoughts on continuing with this trend? It is definately favourable towards generating extra funds for space programs, and with Mr. Olson preferring to be labeled as a 'flight participant' rather than a tourist, it definately begs the question as to how much input can these paying people have in space research? Experiments that he participated in included further investigation into how the human body deals with weightlessness and the possible causes to lower back pain and nausea, yet are these activities simply carried out so as to 'entertain' or is there real scientific purpose behind them? With the next 'tourist' expected to be Japanese businessman Daisuke Enomoto, should paying people have a real scientific background or is money simply enough?"

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  1. In a capitalist society... by dethl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't matter whether or not your intentions for space flight are for science or not. All you need is enough cash and noone will care.

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  2. Fly me to the Moon... by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If the space program can accomodate it and want the extra money, the extra passengers need contribute nothing more than money to the mission. If they meet the requirements of any other tasks in the mission, perhaps they should get a discount, or extra charges for the "extra fun". Whichever the mission planners can accomodate and negotiate. The exciting news is that we've reached a stage of space industry development where we have enough "discretionary resources" and minimized risks that we have the flexibility to engage in substantial nonessential mission components. Which means frivilous Moon trips are now in sight.

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  3. Funding by ozTravman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Space travel is expensive. No space agency has all the money they need to accomplish their goals. We no longer have the public support we had in the 60's so private enterprise is required to help send us further. If the revenue from these tourists helps fund further space missions then it is justified.

    1. Re:Funding by Myopic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not just that, but space tourism is a fantastic idea. One way to look at it is simple economics: there is a demand for space flight, and there is an incredibly limited supply, which of course increases the price to astronomical heights, if you'll pardon the pun; but so long as the exchange is 'profitable' to the 'supplier', which in this case it is, it will naturally lead to an increase in supply. Maybe in a few years it will only cost a million dollars. That will be in the price range of a lot of people. Not you and me, but a lot of people.

    2. Re:Funding by the+morgawr · · Score: 3, Insightful
      If you think about it, you only have demand, the war just changes who decides how it is spent:

      War -> paid for by government spending -> comes from taxes -> would have been spent as consumer demand.

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  4. Is money enough? What? by LeonGeeste · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do we make sure anyone who wants to bankroll the first commercial car knows enough about cars' scientific purposes before we deign to allow him to use one?

    Of course you should "let" rich people buy access that later funds democratization of the new technology.

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  5. Tickets to space by Nerdposeur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should paying people have a real scientific background or is money simply enough?

    That should be up to whoever is behind the trip. Maybe if the tourists are completely useless, they'll have to pay more to make up for their dead weight. But we're not talking about buying your way into heaven or something. Sure, traveling to the moon was a big step for mankind, and it takes on mythic, almost religious significance for us for someone to go into space. But bottom line, it's just a new place we can go.

    If you've got a rocket and I've got a sack of cash, why shouldn't we be able to make an arrangement? You can't do your science without funding anyway. There's no need to be elitist.

  6. kinda like climing mt everest by hansoloaf · · Score: 3, Interesting

    i mean what's the point if you are not a climber or a geologist. But they got the money to burn and want the "label" of having been there. More power to them - and same for these "flight participants" regardless if they just float around or do some little "fun" experiments. Perhaps in the future we would have these floating hotels in space and we would get up there via Charlie's Glass elevator.

  7. Why money is enough by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Anything that gets more people excited by space and space travel is good. Space needs better marketing -- yet another scientific experiment in space doesn't capture the imagination. But marketing is expensive unless you can get free publicity -- I can't see Congress giving NASA the OK to put on a $100 million ad campaign.

    If letting a space tourist go up can attract media attention, then that's great. Its even nice that the customer pays the organization to create good marketing for the organization.

    Besides, I'd bet the economics of space flight are such that the cost of filling an empty seat aren't that high. The average cost of putting a pound into orbit may be extremely high, but the cost of adding another pound of person and supplies is probably not bad. It's like the airlines -- if you're going to fly anyway, why not fill every seat.

    Creating the idea that space is accessible to an increasing number of people -- not just a few astronauts that spent their life in the program -- is the key to the future of space funding.

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  8. Start my own Space Tourism agency by milatchi · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll just start my own Space Tourism agency with hookers and Blackjack!

    In fact, forget the Space Tourism.

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  9. Scientific Purpose? by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Funny
    yet are these activities simply carried out so as to 'entertain' or is there real scientific purpose behind them?

    Given that the space station itself doesn't have a real scientific purpose, using it to host tourists is perfectly appropriate.

  10. Re:Cheaper than a taxi ride. by CDS · · Score: 4, Funny

    (I couldn't find the pound thingy on my keyboard so I typed $)

    Here ya go. I included a few extras for the next time you need them...

    £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £ £

    Hope that helps.

  11. Behind schedule by kylemonger · · Score: 3, Interesting
    We (the human race) have been sending people into orbit for 44 years. 44 years after the Wright brothers first flight, we were on the verge of commercial jet air travel. The ill-fated de Havilland Comet was introduced in 1949. Commercial air travel for the rich (and foolhardy) on prop planes had been available since 1928.

    So I think we're behind schedule--- we should have been sending rich people up there to die twenty years ago. If things had gone according to schedule Challenger's cargo bay would have been refitted for passengers by then and 30 people could have died that day in 1986.

  12. Benefits by PresidentEnder · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can think of no downside to space tourism. For one, the space program in question gets more money; money that would not be used for anything else terribly useful, anyway. This means that this particular space program now has to request less government or entrupreneurial funding, and they can get more done. Tourists "displacing" "scientists" isn't really a problem, either. Those scientists can't go up if their spaceship doesn't fly because of lack of funding, and there's very little research up in space that requires an actual "scientist" to be present. The effects of weightlessness can be tested just as readily on a layman as on a PhD, any data collected in space can be analyzed earthside, and we get to see how space affects people who aren't elite air force test pilots who bench 350, have perfect hair, and date supermodels.

    Besides, where's the bad in sending a rich old dude off-planet?

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  13. Re:In a capitalist society... A lottery is better by BucksCountyCycleGeek · · Score: 3, Interesting
    "Not enough rich morons" is an understatement. One other example I think is relevant is how Apollo 13 was tanking in the TV ratings - apparently after people had visited the moon only twice the public got jaded and moon missions were considered routine.

    This in a world with only three TV stations and way fewer alternative modes of entertainment.

    No freaking way space tourism can payback. Now if we're talking fractional-orbital flights to get you from New York to Tokyo in 15 minutes than space tourism becomes interesting, with the zero-G being a nice side benefit.

  14. Re:Why should it be surprise? by eobanb · · Score: 4, Funny

    allow you to join the mile high club for 5 or 10k dollars

    I don't think 'mile high club' means what you think it means.

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  15. Re:DISGUSTED! by shmlco · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What are you smoking? So he pays $20M. That money goes, maybe, to buy boosters, which PEOPLE at some company make. They take home their booster paychecks. Buy clothes and food at the store. Store people have jobs. People who supply the clothes and food have jobs. They buy cars. Car peopl have jobs. And so on.

    It's not as if he handed someone a check for $20M and they shredded it right there. Same for ANY luxury item. People make 'em. Others sell 'em. People supply materials to make them and they get paid. Other people supply the suppliers and they get paid.

    I suppose you yourself live in a one room hovel, and own no car, computer, cell phone, ipod/cd player, television, books, music, DVDs, extra clothes or shoes. Never eat out. Never see a movie.

    If not, then for shame. Why are you spending money on yourself?

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