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Wikipedia Founder Sees Serious Quality Problems

Juha-Matti Laurio writes "The Wikipedia co-founder Jimmy Wales has acknowledged there are real quality problems with the online project. From the article: 'Meanwhile, criticism from outside the Wikipedia camp has been rebuffed with a ferocious blend of irrationality and vigor that's almost unprecedented in our experience: if you thought Apple, Amiga, Mozilla or OS/2 fans were er, ... passionate, you haven't met a wiki-fiddler.'"

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  1. Re:What's scary is... by julesh · · Score: 4, Informative

    Too true. Only today I fixed an article that described "artex" as a type of wallpaper (it isn't, it's a fluid that sticks to walls or ceilings and dries into a solid surface, similar to plaster but much more versatile). The point is, it's an utterly dull subject. So nobody's bothered correcting the blatant error that a minute's research with google would tell you.

  2. Re:Perhaps they need a team of paid editors by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jimbo started by trying paid editors; it was called Nupedia. After three years and... well, tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars, I guess, they had a whole 24 articles!

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  3. Re:Wikipedia generally works by Koushiro · · Score: 3, Informative

    You mean the controversial articles like, oh, the ones on abortion, or evolution, or apartheid, or the Israli-Palestinian conflict, or same-sex marriage, or alleged cults...

    You have it exactly the wrong way around. These articles are some the best of Wikipedia, not the worst.

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  4. Re:Perhaps they need a team of paid editors by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Write a full encyclopedia from scratch in 3 years? Not on your life.
     
    Britannica's various editions are typically the previous year's version, repackaged and slightly updated. Rewriting it all from scratch they typically only do about once in a lifetime. They did it (rewrote it from scratch) in 1911, and they did it again in 1976 --- to my knowledge, 1976 was the last time they completely rewrote it.

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  5. Re:Or they could rate... by SteveAyre · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kind of. You can flag articles up as to be deleted because it's incorrect or wrong or something like that. There's then a brief debate on what to do with it, which could end with it being updated, merged with something else, renamed, deleted or a number of things. There's an article somewhere on how to go about it and what sort of things you can flag up. Users then discuss it and a decision's made.
    Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines
    Wikipedia:Deletion_policy

    If the problem's a factual error it relies on someone coming along, noticing it and correcting it... that perhaps does not reviewing more as it assumes the reader will spot the error. They probably won't though, as the most likely reason they are reading the page is they don't know about the subject yet.

    People *can* also watch articles so that when anyone edits it if they're an expert in the field they can read it over and see if it's correct or not. There's an option to watch it when you edit it, probably so that previous contributors can help maintain it.

    I think one good feature to add would be to stop Anonymous users editing (it's a simple policy change in the MediaWiki configuration file so is easily possible)... if you have an account they can at least attempt to track how trustworthy you are. (I'm ignoring the problem of people opening fake accounts just to muck articles up).

  6. Prob. is article is wrong and useless. by geohump · · Score: 3, Informative

    All Jimmy Wales actually said was that two articles were terribly written. Wales has always had a goal of high quality in Wikipedia. Having two poorly written articles out of over three quarters of a million is hardly an admission of "Quality problems" except for the two particular articles cited. (yes, there are other articles that need work as well.)

    The real issue here is the repeated attacks by this reporter: Remember Andrew Orlowski is the same reporter who wrote about Wikipedia :

    """"It's the Khmer Rouge in diapers," ... which seems as good a description as any to us."""

    Clearly Andrew has found that Wikipedia bashing is an easy meal ticket and that is the actual source of his over-exaggerated headline writing. Orlonski needs to get paid and he needs his editors to view him as a positive asset, drawing lots of eyeballs to the Register website. A quick Google for Orlowski and Wikipedia shows a long, slanted history for our boy Andy.

    There is a verb for this: "Dvoraking" "To Dvorak"
    "The act of trolling by a supposedly 'professional' journalist in order to draw visitors to a webpage generating hits for the paid advertisements."

    In fact, given this background information Andrew Orlowski has less real credibility than, say, your average slashdot poster. :-).

    Orlowski isn't a total waste of time however. After all he has noted that: "Segway's brains head for toy robot", "Microsoft FAT patent rejected - again", and the incredible "Police stake out bar, hoping to catch man drunk"

    Wow, Andrew! Whats next? I wait in breathless anticipation.

    (What, proofread this? not worth the time, Andrew.)

  7. Featured articles by harmonica · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wikipedia works best for geeky subjects.

    I don't think that's true. Wikipedia's featured articles come from all categories. That's certainly not a perfect proof of my point, but an indication.