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Can Asbestos Help Us Understand Nanotoxicity?

Roland Piquepaille writes "Occupational Hazards is running an interesting article about how using our knowledge of asbestos could help us to assess the risks from nanoparticles, or their nanotoxicity. Today, it's unknown if nanomaterials under development are dangerous to human beings or to our environment. Some people think that nanoparticles can move to our lungs or our brains, presenting a significant threat to our health. Other scientists think there is no danger because we have been exposed to nanoparticles for thousands of years, such as ashes from volcanic eruptions. For example, nanotubes which are now used for many industrial developments, have similar shapes as fibers like asbestos, being long and extremely thin. And like nanomaterials today, asbestos was considered as harmless when humans were exposed to it. While the comparison has some merit, more research needs to be done before drawing any conclusion."

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  1. Visit to the woodshed? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This looks to be the second article in a row from the esteemed Monsieur Piquepaille that doesn't link to an article in his blog. Check out his story posting history:

    Can asbestos help us understand nanotoxicity? Wed Oct 19, '05 12:23 PM
    Pillows Dangerous for Your Health Sat Oct 15, '05 12:28 PM
    Molecular Gastronomy, The Science of Cooking Mon Aug 29, '05 11:32 AM
    The Eyes of the Space Shuttle Wed Aug 03, '05 12:58 PM

    BIG gap between the two latest non-self-referential stories, and the weekly shameless self-promotion that used to be his trademark.

    I suspect that somebody either gave Mr. P a stern talking-to, or more likely the editors just quit accepting his stories. Now, he's back, chastened and better for it. You've got to admit, the guy has an eye for science stories. He's just got to have confidence that if he posts good stuff, the click-throughs to his main page (linked appropriately to his name) will follow in time.

    I'm all for shameless self-promotion, of course, but I'm content with the URL link in the post heading. Well, mostly...

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  2. Don't lick the Space elevator Johnny! by saskboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Other scientists think there is no danger because we have been exposed to nanoparticles for thousands of years, such as ashes from volcanic eruptions. " /sarcasm on/
    And humans haven't had ANY as of yet unexplained health problems over those thousands of years either. /sarcasm off/

    I think it was a bloody shame that the EPA declared New York's air safe to breath after the attack on the World Trade Center, when trillions of nano-toxins were released into the air for cleanup and emergency crews to inhale. We're going to see more of New York Lung, in the years to come.

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  3. The real problem with nanoparticles... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is that (at least with buckyballs and nanotubes) they're non-biodegradable (in this they're similar to asbestos). I recall watching the photo of a macrophage destroyed because it tried to swallow an asbestos particle.

    The questions to be asked are:

    Can the nanoparticles destroy the human cells, or alter their DNA as a side effect?
    Can they clutter in the bloodstream or inside the organs?

  4. EPA Liars by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I live in NYC, and I don't trust the EPA to tell me that nanoparticles are safe. They lied to us after 9/11/2001 about the poisonous air. They lied to the heroic volunteers and police/fire/EMTs who could have worn masks while digging in the rubble. Instead thousands of people are walking testimonials to the EPA's lies about air pollution. I see them every day. The EPA's got a lot of work to recover its credibility. And I haven't seen anything to convince me that they're on that path.

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  5. Danger of asbestos was known since 1898 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The dangers of asbestos were actualy knowns since as early as 1898, when Lucy Dean, one of the first women inspectors for factories in the UK wrote about asbestos work as one of the top four dusty occupations which came under observation that year 'on account of their easily demonstrated danger to the health of workers and because of ascertained cases of injury of brinchial tubes and lungs'.

    Similar observations followed in the years 1909 and 1910 and were widly circulated amongst policy-makers and politicans. By 1918 insurance companies in Canada and the United States declined insurance cover for asbestos workers 'due to the assumed injourious conditions in the industry'.

    I repeat; the danger of asbestos was known from the very beginning and shorty thereafter insurance companies decliend to cover asbestos damage. That was in the 1920s. Asbestos was however used into the 1980 as a cheap and fire resistant material.

    I think we should learn from the mistakes in the past and try not to repeat them.

    Read this http://reports.eea.eu.int/environmental_issue_repo rt_2001_22/en/issue-22-part-05.pdf for more informations about asbestos and the problems it's use created.