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The Future of Wireless Connectivity

Unimonomous writes "CoolTechZone.com analyzes the future of wireless connectivity with WiMax standard. "WiMax is an upgrade from Wi-Fi and offers brilliant advantages over its predecessor. The obvious one being extended range (up to 15 miles), which means that establishing a few towers would pretty much make the entire city connected. Now this probably won't matter to those of us with 24/7 connectivity, but people living in rural and undeveloped areas would surely benefit from it." Update looks like the site buckled. Sorry.

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  1. SQL Error on cooltechzone.com by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Looks like CoolTechZone is down...second story today that the referenced article was unavailable...

    Anyway, just so we have something to talk about...here's some info on WiMAX:


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    1. Re:SQL Error on cooltechzone.com by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 2, Informative


      CoolTechZone.com being down is not due to the /. effect...it was down before the story even went live....thanks for the info, though.

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    2. Re:SQL Error on cooltechzone.com by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 2, Informative


      No, CoolTechZone was hosed before that story as well...it's been down all day (see here for proof).

      It's too bad editors don't check the links before posting a story....this sort of unpleasantness coould have been avoided twice today.

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  2. Wireless by certel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wireless connectivity will open a lot of windows for future products. As mentioned in as EBay article regarding voice calls being free in the future, things like wireless networks will definitely make that a reality.

  3. Article Text (in case of /.) by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 5, Funny

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    1. Re:Article Text (in case of /.) by HunterZ · · Score: 2, Funny
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  4. The Only Downside by geomon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is if my current ISP makes purchase a new antenna/modem. I shelled out $400 for the one I'm currently using so the thought of having a new equipment bill doesn't excite me much.

    That said, it would be nice if I can get higher bandwidth for the same price. When they did an equipment upgrade at their network tower, I received twice the bandwidth for the same price (still a bit pricey at $65/month).

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    1. Re:The Only Downside by cloudmaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      The submitting author said that it probably won't matter to those of us with 24x7 connectivity. So people like you and me, who have 24x7 connectivity over wireless already, clearly won't be affected by things like equipment changes or pricing. You ovbiously have nothing to worry about. :)

    2. Re:The Only Downside by crabpeople · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I shelled out $400 for the one I'm currently using"

      jesus. for that much, i hope they at least took a sharpie and wrote 'cisco' somewhere on it.

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  5. Line of sight still, though.. by xtal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The added range will help, but there's lots of antennas out there that will give you good reliability over long distances.

    The bigger problem is line of sight distances. I've done some testing with this and have the advantage of living on top of a very big hill, within view of DSL - about 5km over a lake. We've gotten connections with very crude antennas already using GPS to line things up reasonably well.

    The big limitation has always been line of sight, and WiMax does nothing to change this - and might hurt, if it fragments 802.11b. Wimax (802.16?) is not compatible with .11, and I'm not sure it will succeed.

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    1. Re:Line of sight still, though.. by NatasRevol · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wimax doesn't require line of sight.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimax

      In fact, aside from IR, I don't recall any standard wireless communication that was only limited to line of sight. Obviously, density and EM radiation attenuation properties of the objects between sending and receiving antenna will affect the range and signal strength. But that doesn't mean it won't go through walls.

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    2. Re:Line of sight still, though.. by Kymermosst · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wimax doesn't require line of sight.

      No, but you must be damn close to line of sight (you must be NLOS - near line of sight). And you need something for signals to reflect off of. WiMax is able to handle multipathing and multipath distortion of signals.

      But that doesn't mean it won't go through walls.

      When we're talking about RF frequencies above 1 GHz, if the relevant signals goes right through a wall from transmitter to receiver, you have line of sight for it. Line of sight means the signal is going from transmitter to receiver directly without significant reflection, attenuation, or refraction. If the signal does not arrive directly, you do not have line of sight. If the signal arrives mainly via reflection or refraction (possibly by more than one path, 'multipathing') you have near line of sight (NLOS).

      Examples:

      If you have two antennas on opposite sides of a wall, and the signals go through, you have (direct) line of sight.

      If it doesn't go through the walls, you do not have line of sight.

      If you do not have line of sight but the signal goes out the door of one room, bounces down the hall and into the door of the other room and to the other antenna, you have near line of sight.

      If you have an 2.4 GHz transmitter on one side of a magic optically transparent glass wall that blocks 2.4 GHz, and a receiver on the other side, you do not have line of sight for 2.4 GHz. You do have line of sight for the visible spectrum, however.

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  6. Just while we're on the subject of Wi-fi by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 4, Informative
    The BBC is running an article about the ongoing debate about municipal wi-fi in the US.
    "Recent figures suggest that since 2000, the US has dropped from third to 16th among nations worldwide in terms of per capita broadband access. Bob Hale, owner of American Onion, shows how he uses a laptop with wireless capabitlities from a remote, rural site at his onion fields in Hermiston, Oregon

    Studies suggest that 86% of households with income of more than $75,000 have broadband access. But the share is just 38% for those with an income of less than $30,000.

    Huge areas of US countryside outside major towns and cities are also poorly served.

    Ironically, one of the frontiers of wireless accessibility is found in a rural swathe of Oregon, which is thought to have one of the world's largest wireless hotspots. "

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  8. What about security? by d'oh89 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Ok, let's say 5 years down the road most folks use WiMax for internet connectivity along the same lines of coverage that broadband follows. How secure are those connections going to be? With my cable modem at least i can stick a firewall between me and all the nasties out there. What I can't imagine is how Joe Schmoe is going to protect his PC enough so that he doesn't get comprimised by a hacker/slacker. People have enough of a time configuring their wireless routers...Now imagine having to connect to a tower 5 miles away where there's a lot of ohter folks doing the same thing. What can one do to protect themselves?

  9. gl hf... not going to see it in rural areas by Mashdar · · Score: 3, Informative

    but people living in rural and undeveloped areas would surely benefit from it

    Unless you are talking about automating your farm equipment with wifi, I doubt many rural areas will see this until far into the future.

    Who is going to pay to set up a tower to give 20 people internet? The reason wimax is so attractive in cities is the user density. I suppose the point is that it is cheaper than laying new land lines in rural areas (where broadband capable lines may be absent)?
    It doesn't seem likely to happen any time soon, though. And there is still the matter of wiring the towers. Unless you wanted them to route signals wirelessly... I wouldn't want to risk my data travelling hundreds of miles over air. Fifteen is bad enough.

    1. Re:gl hf... not going to see it in rural areas by QuantumRiff · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Really, I think you misunderstand Rural. We are not talking about BFE, where your neighbor is the driveway 10 miles down the dirt road. Rural in the US seems to be pretty much any town less than 100,000. (At least out here in the west). My rural town (Klamath Falls, OR) is 40k people, living in one basin, but with lots of sprawl. Lots are huge here, 1 acre lots in the middle of town are not uncommon at all. This is an old town, with very old infrastructure. (its actually very similar to Hermiston,OR in population density.) To wire up the town, it would take an insane amount of fiber, and then the last mile stuff. When the cable company wired up the town, it took dozens of teams to pull all the fiber. Figure those guys were making something like $30 an hour (prevailing wage). Figure on the sheer amount of equipment needed, trucks, fiber converters, tearing up streets, etc. Now, look at putting up 3 towers around town with wireless. Even if you have to pay $50k or more per tower, it is damn cheap. YOu can then turn around and sell your service for much less than a fixed infrastructure, because you have much less invested in installation and maintenance. And with cheaper service, especiallly in a "rural" town where the mean wage is much less then the bigger cities, your going to get a hell of a lot more customers. (lots of people can't afford $45/month for internet)

      So, i guess my point, since i got sidetracked, is that smaller communities can be quickly setup, with it being very easy to "blanket" a smaller rural town, and start building up revenue streams. Especially when you consider that rural areas don't have as much competition. I could spend $150k, and get 5000 customers paying $15 a month all within a few months.. whereas in a bigger city, you could get more revenue per tower, but not nearly as quickly, as you need more towers to cover the city (higher infrastructure costs), and lots more competetion.

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  10. One problen with rural connection... by JoeCommodore · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is that some folk who live in hilly or mountainous regions where you would have to have lots of access points to ensure any sort of decent coverage. Probably one of the reason people are looking at airship transmitters.

    Some folk in our area can't get anything as they are too remote for lines, to hily for towers and those same hills and trees block sattelite access.

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  11. Of interest to not just rural/remote people by Safe+Sex+Goddess · · Score: 4, Interesting

    WiMAX is of interest to those in urban areas who are working to provide universal net access to even those who can't afford $50/month. I think Municipalities could probably find ways to offer free wireless internet in their communities if they are creative. For example, they could offer free municipal wireless with the excuse that they want to provide job search capabilities to everyone in their community. Also providing access to any local, state, or .gov site. And what about include access to any non-profit site, and also to any site offering free e-mail. Add a little peer-to-peer networking between people using the same free networks and who needs any corporate advertisements or sites or access to the "private subscriber" side of the internet?

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  12. The problems are not so easy to fix by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and they all relate to regulations. The FCC has, so far, taken a hands off approach to regulation of data services, both wireless and wired. This approach is having an effect of establishing new networks, or seems to be. The problem is that all these new networks are being built by companies that plan to make money from distributing digital content... and we ALL know how sticky that problem is. For instance, music and video distribution is tightly being strangled by the *AA, and MS is trying to get in on the game too, with DRM'd content. All of these efforts are good, and believe me, WiMax is a *GOOD* thing.

    The problems are content and distribution. Right now, plans are being made for IPTV and radio, and many many things that are digital in nature, all of which make life better or easier to cope with. Still, copyright and patent law will fsck it up if changes are not made now... Later is no good, the changes need to be made now....

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  13. eeeeeeeeew! by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nothing worse than exposing your php/mysql site with an error message. Hello.... security?

    (let's hope the website is fixed soon)

  14. Uhhh by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In the future there may be only wireless service for consumers, due to lower cost of deployment. Given a certain spectrum width, wireless has less data carrying capacity due to the need for agressive noise correction. Also, with wireless you can't increase capacity by laying a second piece of coax or fiber beside the first. In congested areas (neighbourhoods of large apartment buildings, etc), the combination of high use, high RF noise, and complex surfaces (walls, etc) could seriously tax WiMAX. Fortunately these same areas are where the cost of deployment for coax and fiber is lowest.

  15. no people by slapout · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Now this probably won't matter to those of us with 24/7 connectivity, but people living in rural and undeveloped areas would surely benefit from it"

    The problem is that there are not enough people in those areas to make it profitable.

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  16. Re:Coral Cache by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 2, Informative


    Here's a nice link for you...you'll need to have GreaseMonkey installed for it. Won't do you much good in this particular instance, but might help in the future.

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  17. Did you read the wikipedia entry? by xtal · · Score: 3, Informative


    It should be noted that these claims, especially that such distances can be achieved without line of sight, represent, at best, a theoretical maximum under ideal circumstances


    Line of sight is ALWAYS going to be required in that frequency spectrum, unless you are very close or at very high power levels.

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  18. High Speed community networks? by tji · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When thinking about what WiMax will offer us, I am not sure what all the advantages will be. Obviously, the current Wireless network ISPs will be able to support a much larger area, making them a lot more useful.

    Beyond that, you have all the same limitations as current ISPs (i.e. I don't see this giving me a low cost 30Mbps connection.. hopefully DSL or Cable will eventually do this).

    But, in relatively dense areas, I see some cool possibilities in community networks. In these, we don't worry about a big pipe to the Internet, which would be expensive. We just join a local network and share resources at high speeds.

    As it is now, if i leave my upload speed reasonable on P2P apps, it quickly swamps my outbound bandwidth and all my Internet access goes to crap. P2P networks, file servers, could be a lot more useful at high LAN speeds -- and most people would be more willing to serve at high speeds when it doesn't effect their Internet connection.

    Even sharing huge files, like HDTV programs, could be feasible on the local networks.

    Link a few of these WiMax networks together, and you can get some huge alternate networks, where people provide useful services for their communities. Without bandwidth costs, it becomes very cheap.. I can easily set up a Linux box to dedicate to this network for a couple hundred bucks.

  19. FiMax by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 3, Informative

    WiFi offers maybe 110Mbps in a 700m radius. WiMax offers maybe 650Mbps in 24000m radius. That's 71bps:m for WiFi vs. 0.36bps:m for WiMax . WiFi is 200x as dense as WiMax. Rural areas have much larger areas which don't account for bandwidth usage, with big users every few miles. While urban areas have much more even distribution of consumption - even stacking 3-4 layers per meter, sometimes 20-50+ layers (like urban centers like Manhattan). Real consumption shows that WiMax is better for rural areas, or long backhauls (attenuated into beams that can carry the network maybe hundreds of miles across gaps like open water). Even in rural areas, WiFi is better for the hotspots, like actual buildings or vehicles. While in urban areas, even public places like streets are very dense, with 655Mbps shared by hundreds of people every block.

    So WiFi isn't exactly an "upgrade" to WiFi. It's a complementary technology. Even throttling down the power to cover only a few blocks with each WiMax AP to use its higher bandwidth is only useful as a connection "umbrella" to interconnect denser WiFi hotspots in buildings and cars. Which is also appropriate, because users in public places are usually mobile or casual, without the bandwidth demands of a stationary user. WiMax marketers are selling it as an upgrade to WiFi because WiFi is such a popular brand name, and WiMax has to sell to anyone who will buy. But we should get excited only about the WiMax features that are actually better than WiFi in the scenarios where WiFi is now the round peg in the square hole. Otherwise we'll be sorely disappointed when inappropriate WiMax applications underperform even WiFi, and we'll be stuck with the wrong solution - and the marketdroids will be stuck with our money, without which we can't buy what we actually want.

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