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IBM Leads Team to Alleviate Data Storage Woes

Kailash Nadh writes to tell us ABC News is reporting that IBM is teaming up with several other companies to form a group called Aperi. This group will attempt to "push the open source idea deeper into computing" and "free up the bottlenecks that can occur when a business has bought tape and disk storage systems from a variety of vendors." The partnership is to include companies like Cisco, Sun, Fujitsu, and several others.

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  1. Now don't tell me to RTFA ok??!?! by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 4, Funny

    EOM

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  2. article is at by ChrisGilliard · · Score: 5, Informative
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  3. no link in summary, here's one by Anonymous+Crowhead · · Score: 4, Informative
  4. Haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So many people don't read the articles anymore that the submitter must have figured, "Screw it, why post it anyway?"

    1. Re:Haha by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Funny
      So many people don't read the articles anymore that the submitter must have figured, "Screw it, why post it anyway?"

      Nah, he figured the next time the story is posted it would have links.
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  5. Entertainment for the Open Source community? by msbsod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Companies channel their "news". And who else could bring us better entertainment than ABC News, a Disney channel? The whole idea that IBM is pushing Linux is just too funny. IBM has no interest in Linux. IBM wants to sell their stuff. Nothing wrong with that, but why do we need IBM between the Open Source community and customers who already bought their equipment? It is the good old strategy of putting yourself between the brain and the money. All distributors of entertainment industry work that way. So, let's welcome IBM in their new role as entertainer, with Disney as partner.

    1. Re:Entertainment for the Open Source community? by Vellmont · · Score: 3, Insightful


      but why do we need IBM between the Open Source community and customers who already bought their equipment?

      Because when you've got a billion dollar company riding on open source software you need someone to help you NOW when you run into a problem, not try to call up the open source developer who may be on vacation, screwing his girlfriend, whatever. This is even true for the small companies out there, just more true for the larger ones.

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    2. Re:Entertainment for the Open Source community? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      IBM sells support and software too. For the software, there needs to be something to run it on, if the client wants to run Linux, then they'll have to make sure they can run on Linux too. It's kind of tough to get reliable, good and swift on-site support.

  6. alleviating woes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    alleviating woes?

    Yep, some might say IBM has a lot of experience working with Deep Blues.

  7. Meh by Jeffrey+Baker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Brought to you by Cisco, Sun, CA, Brocade, NetApp, McData, and Fujitsu. In other words, the same bunch of jerks who got you into this mess in the first place. Great. I'll expect something really useless like Ultra Wide iSCSI or some other bullshit, for only $999 per node, of course.

  8. I work for IBM. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I work for IBM.
    So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
    Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.
    But trust me.... You don't.
    I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont
    know what you are talking about.
    This is how bad info gets passed around.
    If you dont know about the topic....Don't make yourself sound like you do.
    Cuz some Slashdotters belive anything they hear.

    1. Re:I work for IBM. by DavidHOzAu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cuz some Slashdotters belive anything they hear.
      Yes, and I work at IBM too. ;-)

  9. Re:Doesn't IBM sell data storage solutions? by cerelib · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, that is completely the wrong way to think about it. This is a way to be able to sell to customers whose entire infrastructure is from a competitor(EMC, Sun, Fujitsu) by being able to integrate or "virtualize" all of it so it works as a cohesive unit. It is all about virtualization of storage.

  10. Dear IBM, et al by christurkel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A good idea would be to encourage, nay, preinstall open source software on all computers you sell, including desktops.

    Yours truly, joe wantsomethingotherthanWindows

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  11. Open Source data archive and retrieval tool by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Tape ARchive tool, reports IBM, will allow users to add and remove files from a data set, called a 'tarfile', via a well-documented API, which IBM wants OSS developers to leverage. This 'tarfile' can be created as a regular Unix or Wintel filesystem file, or directly written to tape or disk. This can be used to create any number of GUI and command line tools to provide low-level access to the data files contained within. A bonus to the extensible format used by IBM is that native Compress, GZ and BZ2 compression libraries can be used, when available on the system. A beta release of the utility set ALSO provides LZIP compression, previously only available as a Sourceforge patch to the existing OSS toolkit.

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  12. Phooey. Article Text With Links by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Kailash Nadh writes to tell us ABC News is reporting that IBM is teaming up with several other companies to form a group called Aperi. This group will attempt to "push the open source idea deeper into computing" and "free up the bottlenecks that can occur when a business has bought tape and disk storage systems from a variety of vendors." The partnership is to include companies like Cisco, Sun, Fujitsu, and several others.

  13. Of course, IBM wants to sell their stuff.. However by valdis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Something to keep in mind is that one of IBM's *biggest* divisions is now World Services, which is their consulting arm. Now, the consulting services people make the same amount (more or less) no matter if they do the work on Linux or AIX.

    The difference is that IBM can either have 5,000 people doing AIX support, or it can have 100 or so people doing Linux support and development, and let the open source community provide the other 4,900 people.

    Which do you think looks better on the balance sheet?

  14. Re:Doesn't IBM sell data storage solutions? by Jason+Earl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IBM can make this sort of a play because it has such a wide array of services and a support arm that is right in the trenches. So, for example, it can see that its UNIX gear is selling well, but a lot of IBM's UNIX customers are opting for EMC storage. IBM's service arm is happy to set that up for you, but its sales arm is not nearly as happy. So IBM gets to work at making storage a commodity and then providing service, support, and hardware. This is a win for IBM because it no longer needs EMC's help to sell an IBM solution. The profit that used to go into EMC's pocket now goes into IBM's pocket. The margins probably aren't as large as EMC used to get, but IBM doesn't have to share. IBM is more than happy to shrink the size of a market that it happens to compete in if it thinks that it can get a bigger slice of the pie or more service revenue. Interestingly enough, commoditizing a market usually causes it to grow because more people can afford the good or service. By creating a commodity IBM can often finagle both a bigger market *and* a larger slice of the pie.

    The best part is that this sort of strategy doesn't necessarily mean that IBM has to give up its current data storage products. With a little bit of differentiation IBM might still be able to sell "high end" storage gear that works well with their specialty OSes and hardware while offering a lower-cost standards-based solution that competes favorably with IBM's competitors. Just because IBM is pushing Linux certainly hasn't made its AIX business go away. Just like Linux gives IBM more ammunition when competing with Microsoft commodity storage gives IBM more ammunition when competing with EMC.

    This also goes to show how the folks at IBM are much smarter than the folks at Sun. Sun was facing the same problem as IBM in the storage arena (people wanted EMC's gear instead of Sun's gear). Sun is trying to remedy that through the purchase of another storage vendor (StorageTek) that is likewise having trouble competing. IBM, on the other hand, has opted to kick the bottom out of the market and see if it can't dominate over a commodity storage field.

  15. Deep by wombatmobile · · Score: 2, Funny

    This group will attempt to "push the open source idea deeper into computing"

    How much deeper can they go?

  16. Re:Of course, IBM wants to sell their stuff.. Howe by msbsod · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Having 5,000 people doing AIX support was much better for IBM than having 100 people busy with Linux support, because all 5,000 people were paid by the customers. If they could IBM would continue this way. But AIX is hardly an expanding market. So they change their business model and put themselves between the customers and the Open Source community. HP and Sun do the same.

  17. With IBM, it will be by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    More like a team to alleviate your money storage woes..

  18. SMI-S by furry_wookie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We have this already..it's called the SNIA SMI... have you not heard of it?

    http://www.snia.org/smi/home ..no thanks IBM.

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  19. Re:Doesn't IBM sell data storage solutions? by superpulpsicle · · Score: 3, Informative

    I talk to a lot of companies deploying big servers & storage of all size all year round. Here is the current picture.

    EMC sym - They are only popular because they dominated the market in the 90s with many places already invested in them. Old school technology. Bloated as hell software, too many pieces.

    HDS - Tagma and lightning is the best technology in the market by a long shot period! However they are unfortunate in selling the best product in a shitty market.

    IBM - Shark has the ugliest hardware & software userbility there is. If you don't mind it, go for it.

    HP - If they didn't oem from HDS, they would have been toast.

    Sun - Storedge line started out confusing. Their marketing makes it even worse.