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Linux Community Halloween Challenge

LuMinoR writes "In a cool contest with a Halloween theme, BitDefender is inviting Linux enthusiasts to crash test their upcoming antivirus solution for Linux e-mail servers. The most thorough beta tester will receive 1,000 German beers and a trip to BitDefender's corporate headquarters in Romania, where they will attend meetings with Count Dracula, the BitDefender development team and other local luminaries."

68 comments

  1. Linux 2.6.14 released -- 2 days ago! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    And slashdot still hasn't posted the story. Getting lamer every day.

  2. Can't wait... by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 4, Funny
    To see the tax one would have to pay to bring 1000 beers into the country...

    Though, the chance to meet Count Dracula though....

    1. Re:Can't wait... by funkatron · · Score: 2, Funny

      No much as long as you can persuade customs that it's for your own personal use

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    2. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know what you'd do, but I planned on drinking them all while I was there

    3. Re:Can't wait... by JohnnyBigodes · · Score: 1

      Customs tax = 999 beers out of that 1000 :)

    4. Re:Can't wait... by LittLe3Lue · · Score: 1

      DONT DO IT!!!

      They OBVIOUSLY plan to feed you to Count Dracula and keep the beers.

      Who in there right mind gives up that much beer?!

    5. Re:Can't wait... by Penguin+Programmer · · Score: 1

      There's an easy way to get around the import tax: drink all 1000 beers while you're there!

    6. Re:Can't wait... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose this is some clever ploy by "The Man" to put a good mind down. Nothing says brilliant like a programmer who drank 1000 beers. Nope, nothing.

    7. Re:Can't wait... by corpsiclex · · Score: 1

      a chance.....to die for? *maniacal grin*

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  3. define... by utnow · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'd love to know what 'The most thorough beta tester' means... lol

    "He loved our software so we bought him beer..."

    1. Re:define... by earth_daemon · · Score: 0, Redundant

      "I'd love to know what 'The most thorough beta tester' means... lol"

      Lol, me two.

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    2. Re:define... by Toccy · · Score: 1

      Indeed =P

    3. Re:define... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *LOL*
      so funy

  4. First post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    dang!

  5. How to tell if you are a linux fanatic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    AKA a nazi fanatic loser.

    1. You rejuvenate and dance when you hear a windows flaw exposed, but you conveniently ignore the thousands of security flaws exposed in linux.

    2. You yell loudly TROLL! at any person's post or at any person you see posting facts that you do not want to hear about your oh so cool linux.

    3. You know it's a classic case of penis envy, you don't have all the support, software and hardware available for linux and you have to let that anger out somewhere, but you don't have the brains to admit it.

    4. You hate windows, hate Microsoft, but race to emulate windows, have programs to run office from within linux, and spend a $300 on a Windows emulator, only Windows fools.

    5. You cannot admit that you don't have professional usage of Linux outside server markets.

    6. You cannot admit that most of the joe user out there when told that there is linux will respond, what is that?

    7. You cannot admit that there is no professional printing capabilities in linux.

    8. You cannot admit that you are a masochist (otherwise why would someone spend hours playing with scripts,
    and recompiling programs that are available for Windows?)

    9. You cannot admit that there is no professional desktop publishing done on Linux.

    10. You cannot admit that no one in their right mind would do professional video editing in Linux.

    11. You cannot admit that linux sucks when it comes for gaming/home entertainment or education.

    12. You have problems in understanding Windows, and you will blame your own incompetence on Microsoft.

    13. You have problems in pointing a clicking, but have no problems in wading through cryptic scripts written by lunatics.

    14. Nothing will get past that shit that fills your head, you will not admit to any facts.

    15. You can't admit that naming of linux components, packages, and others are weird and fits profiles of troubled teenagers. gentoo, lgx, rpm ....

    16. You feel angered because you were left out by microsoft's Media technologies, they support Mac, Sun sparc, but not linux.

    17. You feel inferior deep inside but unable to admit it, you don't have a database as easy and powerful as Access.

    18. You cannot tell that not a single office package outside Microsoft's is worth looking at or bothering with.

    19. You don't know that your CD recorder software sucks.

    20. You don't have DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW support in your pathetic OS.

    21. While the rest of the world moves on, you're stuck in a stone age technology that needs third party software to boot into GUI.

    22. You act out of prejudice, you kill file domains and users of specific news readers while you ignore the bullshit that your fellow linux losers post.

    23. You don't know commercial support in Linux is almost non existent.

    24. You miss the fact that companies are leaving linux because of the chaos, and the cheap linux losers who are unwilling to pay and support hard work, Corel, gaming companies,...etc.

    25. You are unaware that linux has no terminal services (there is a lame one that no one uses), and commercial support for it is not happening.

    26. You are unaware that setting up servers on Windows takes couple of minutes while on linux, good luck playing with configuration scripts.

    27. You cannot admit that support for USB on linux is laughable at best.

    28. You think that Linux is better because slashdot told you so.

    29. You spend countless hours flaming people because they post their opinions about your oh so cool linux and your attitude, instead of researching things for yourself and understanding fact in order not to look this stupid.

    30. You think that anyone who uses linux has a clue.

    31. You think that linux cannot crash.

    32. You think that everyone is interested in your conspiracy theories about Microsoft (or should i say M$ in order for you, teenagers to understand?), and how they destroyed linux, ...etc.

    33. You keep ignoring the fact that thousands of linux servers get hacked every year, but it takes one Windows server hacked to get you and your fellow linux idiots to dance and celebrate.

    1. Re:How to tell if you are a linux fanatic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      This is over 5 years old, which I must say seems older than you are. Please update your shitty material.

    2. Re:How to tell if you are a linux fanatic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I think your post is pretty funny - and even somewhat true - however I have to say that there IS professional use of Linux. I'm a central IT design guy in a company with 60,000 windows boxes and 1,200 Linux boxes. The Linux ones are the professionals - they do high end stuff like Geo mapping (finding oil, etc.) on them that they can't do on their windows machines yet.

    3. Re:How to tell if you are a linux fanatic. by WheelDweller · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      And yet...the numbers are climbing; a week ago a report informed us that our numbers now double, on the desktop, the MacIntosh.

      I set up DOS/Windows shops from Huntsville, AL to Chicago, IL...the amazing mass-hysteria of this mega-monopoly is partly my fault; sorry. But now I work to correct it.

      An important concept to remember is that while there are still things to be improved, one virus of 200,000+ and your day is toast, your work evaporated, AND YET YOU STILL STAY WITHOUT TRYING TO CHANGE IT.

      We did. And every day it gets better, not more expensive.

      Enjoy the show!

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    4. Re:How to tell if you are a linux fanatic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Reply: 1. Maybe that's because we're actually told about the bugs, and given ways to avoid them until a bugfix is released (usually quite shortly afterwards). 2. I've never used the word tr*** on slashdot in my life. 3. Actually Linux supports my desktop better than Windows does, any time I want to install Windows I have to go looking for drivers for the motherboard's builtin sound card (VIA AC97 I think, I could run lspci but I'm lazy....). 4. I don't run a Windows emulator, my desktop has everything I need.... 5. Well seeing as I only develop server apps that's true, but I'll bet people do use Linux for other things... 6. Yeah, and the average Joe thinks Office is part of Windows, and if the versions on Windows and Office don't match something is wrong. 7. Professional printing? I have no idea what that is and I've never had to do it..... It's probably something that OS X does better than Windows. 8. Like I said, I don't use Windows crap (why would Windows progs compile on Linux anyway?). The only scripts I've ever made are little things to make life easier in my bash terminal (I wish they worked on the crappy windows terminal). 9. Never had to do it, best left to Mac. 10. ditto, I think the name of the prog is Final Cut 11. Gaming: games are boring, I rarely play them.... get a PS2 if you really like games. Home entertainment: who the hell uses a PC for home entertainment? The most I do is play some flac files, real theater systems do much better tan Linux OR Windows 12. I understand Windows perfectly, it just doesn't do what I need it to. 13. I've never needed to read through a script..... 14. nor will you..... 15. Yes, because Vista is such a great name 16. I don't feel angry at all, I have FLAC and Vorbis, and RealPlayer will run on Linux just fine (no ads either, I was dissapointed the first time I saw RealPlayer 10 running on Windows, who the hell needs a "message center"?) 17. OpenOffice base? 18.OpenOffice.org, most of the Windows people I know prefer (death to the paperclip!). OpenOffice has PDF creation, MS Office has millions of sidebars telling you what to do. 19. GNOME works just fine, I don't burn audio CDs or Video CDs so I don't know about those... 20. GNOME lets me burn DVDs, and I can watch them too 21. My distro boots into GUI automatically, is there such a thing as 3rd party with linux? 22. I don't even know what this means 23. O great, so if I had Windows I could call India for support, lovely. And since when is there no commercial support, what about Novell and Red Hat? 24. You just keep thinking that.... 25. My desktop is acting as a headless terminal server right now..... 26. ::Checks box, click button:: Hey apache started... I have yet to figure out how to do it on Windows 27. Hmmm, the stuff I use works fine..... 28. It did? I wasn't listening 29. I do? I didn't know that 30. They tend to.... not always, but far higher chances than a Windows user... 31. Oh I've found ways to crash it..... I have yet to find a way NOT to crash Windows. 32. Microsoft destroyed linux? (checks kernel.org) nope it's still there 33. Gimme an example....

  6. "The" country!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So there's only one country after all? I always knew my geo profs were lying!

    1. Re:"The" country!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USA forever! Gay luv and hugs for every fellow Gentoo-user!

  7. How about an antivirus solvent? by Cyburbia · · Score: 1

    The OP could have immpressed us more by calling it a "robust computer security solution stack". What's with the increasing use of corporate-speak in Slashdot articles and posts?

  8. mostly true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    yet you care about what we think enough to post this?

  9. Linux by earth_daemon · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I want to see the first reports of how well these guys do.

    Someone please post the appropriate link when it becomes available!

    Thanks.

    Oh and.... the golden combo of Ubuntu running Fluxbox would kickass running that app. :D

    Although I would kill to see a FreeBSD version.

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    1. Re:Linux by bennini · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      someone pleeease mod-down the parent for "Laziness"

      find the link yourself! slashdot is not ur personal work-horse.

  10. While I would love the beer by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a beautiful and large breasted female with a penchant for revealing bodices I really dont think its a good idea for me to meet Count Dracula, so I pass.

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    1. Re:While I would love the beer by kote-men-do · · Score: 1

      Can I have your phone number?

    2. Re:While I would love the beer by Vlad_the_Inhaler · · Score: 3, Funny

      I beg you to reconsider, we would get along just fine. My knowledge of anti-virus solutions for Linux e-mail servers needs brushing up.

      Tell me, are you a *day* person or a nighttime person?

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    3. Re:While I would love the beer by m50d · · Score: 2, Funny
      As a beautiful and large breasted female...

      Not a good idea to be announcing that around here.

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    4. Re:While I would love the beer by Ulrich+Hobelmann · · Score: 3, Funny

      As a beautiful and large breasted female

      You must be new here...

      (I actually wonder why you're still here.)

    5. Re:While I would love the beer by jintxo · · Score: 1

      Not that anyone actually believed it.

    6. Re:While I would love the beer by alexandreracine · · Score: 1, Funny

      Your Relationship with Timesprout (579035)

      Change this? Neutral -=> Friend

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    7. Re:While I would love the beer by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Anyone can be large breasted if they're fat enough.

      Besides, anyone who has ever dealt with romanians at a garage sale knows that by the time you leave, they'll have talked you down to taking only a dozen beers.

  11. Gaudere's Law by Cyburbia · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course, in a post complaining about English, I misspelled a word.

    It's Sunday morning. I'm tired. I still have to put on some face lubrication solution and use a beard removal solution (part of the facial grooming suite) and head to a lecture at an Ashkenazi Hebrew Religious Solution Center. Meanwhile, others will be on their way to a personal salvation solution center, where they will likely sing from a robust suite of hymns. Unless they're Missouri Synod Lutherans, where they'll have low-frequency dirge solutions.

    1. Re:Gaudere's Law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sholom Alechem, nice to see another Jew around here.

      Where abouts are you from? (I'm from Sydney Australia where 32 of the 33 shuls/learning centers are chabad lubavitch and 1 of them are sephardi....)

  12. Maybe I'm the only one but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think that I'd prefer to have The Count from Sesame St. with me counting those beers. And how big are those beers? 1ml, 500ml or 5l?

    1. Re:Maybe I'm the only one but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In germany a beer is considered 500ml.
      (With the exception of some regions where a beer is 200ml (Cologne) or sometimes even 1000ml (Bavaria))
      HTH
      HAND

    2. Re:Maybe I'm the only one but... by badfish99 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I was disapointed by the small size of the beers when I went to Cologne, until I found that you can also order it by the barrel.

    3. Re:Maybe I'm the only one but... by Dr.+Evil · · Score: 1

      Does anywhere other than Cologne and Dusseldorf have those silly little (expensive) beer glasses?

    4. Re:Maybe I'm the only one but... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Cologne and D'dorf sell their beer in 0.2 glasses, Bavaria usually sells theirs in 1 liter glasses ("Maß") or even bigger, everyone else is somewhere in between. Over here (near Bremen) you usually get a small pilsener (0.2l), a large pilsener (0.4l) or a wheat beer (0.5l). Note that Kölsch (the beer you get in Cologne) is exceptionally expensive. I don't know about Alt (the D'dorfian beer).

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    5. Re:Maybe I'm the only one but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know why this is modded funny. It's perfectly true. I saw some people at the next table in a restaurant ordering their own barrel.

  13. Had you read the article by bennini · · Score: 1
    If you actually took the time to read the article (instead of just posting random comments spewn out by that Retarded-Comment-Generator floating between ur ears)..
    ud have noticed that
    A bug hunting contest is also underway, and will reward the most prolific beta tester with 1000 (count one thousand) German beers and a trip to Romania, there to attend meetings with Count Dracula, the BitDefender development team and other local notabilities.


    through extrapolation....one can assume that "most prolific" equates to "finds the most bugs"

    there is also another contest going on, gleichzeitig, that rewards the person who discovers the most original way to crash the application.
    1. Re:Had you read the article by ironfrost · · Score: 4, Informative

      through extrapolation....one can assume that "most prolific" equates to "finds the most bugs"

      Almost, but not quite. Quoting from the contest FAQ:

      Q. The rules weren't quite clear. What are we supposed to do in order to win?

      A. Send bug reports that have not been sent by someone else. They will be rated and a score from 1 to 3 will be announced by the judges in 24h max from the bug's arrival. At the end, the person with the most points wins.

    2. Re:Had you read the article by Hosiah · · Score: 1
      Retarded-Comment-Generator

      Now, that's an idea for a Python script if ever I heard one! You could have lynx scrape the content from the discussion page into a file, parse through the file building data for a Markov-chain, and use curl to post the generated comment anonymously. And average IQs of ACs would rise, I don't doubt!

  14. Gimmicks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    These contests are stupid. It's just a way for companies to get cheap labor and free advertising. Many people test, one arbitrary person gets paid (and not even paid cash). Game companies love doing this. The company will make millions and one lucky bastard gets some door prizes. Gee, thanks.

    Of course if you seek fame and have nothing better to do then more power to you.

    Anyone worth their salt isn't going to bother with silly stuff like this so the end product usually isn't top notch quality. In other words, any testing they get out of this will be realtively poor quality. It would be cheaper and produce better results to just farm the work out to India for $2/hr. That is if it weren't for the free advertising.

    Ugh... So gimmicky.

  15. Yeah... right by Cthefuture · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just give me the $8k for two weeks testing and I guarantee that I will find so many problems that you'll be busy for months.

    Otherwise, why would I bother participating in this just for the possibility of being paid? ... I do all the work and someone else gets paid... right. I imagine everyone else with actual skill is thinking the same thing.

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    1. Re:Yeah... right by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Indeed, and thus, everyone with actual skills will stay away from this, which means that if *one* person with actual skills decides to join in anyway, they're pretty much bound to win against all the amateurs. :)

      In other words, it's worth it after all. Or isn't it?

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    2. Re:Yeah... right by Hikaru79 · · Score: 1

      Just give me the $8k for two weeks testing and I guarantee that I will find so many problems that you'll be busy for months. Otherwise, why would I bother participating in this just for the possibility of being paid? ... I do all the work and someone else gets paid... right. I imagine everyone else with actual skill is thinking the same thing.

      I always find it amazing how Slashdot is constantly praising the "open" model where everyone is free to come and find bugs and fix them and we all get along so perfectly because "with enough eyes, any bug is shallow", but when it comes down to it, people say "why would I bother participating in this if I'm not being paid"? I think I hear Microsoft snickering.

    3. Re:Yeah... right by 51mon · · Score: 1

      '"why would I bother participating in this if I'm not being paid"? I think I hear Microsoft snickering.'

      Not all /. readers have the same philosophy, and quite a few of them get paid to work on free software. Heck I fix bugs and make bug reports in the free software we use at work, at work, harder than twiddling my thumbs but I'm still getting paid for it.

      And then there is the view, why should we test an antivirus system?

      Rejecting Windows executable types (and .zip) in my free software MTA's MIME type filter with two regular expression get rids of all of them so far. One file with two regular expressions, or a whole proporietary antivirus suite with updates and all that to-do that is complex enough to need testing, hmm let me think which should I choose.

      I mean why test something I have no need of, the only people who would benefit after all are those people in Redmond, or people using proprietary software (since none of the free software operating systems have a virus problem worth mentioning, although I'm told if you try hard enough with WINE...), the people selling the antivirus tool. Even .zip isn't exactly the archive format of choice in the free software world.

      Now if there were GNU/Linux viruses in the wild, or spreading by email, then I might be tempted, but I'd probably just fix my email client, or operating system instead, life is simpler that way.

    4. Re:Yeah... right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That depends. No one defined what you have to do to "win" this thing. They could suck up all the useful testing/advice from everyone and then give the prize to some moron that didn't do anything other than give a cool presentation.

  16. Mmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Free ... free as in beta testers.

  17. Free Ad by schestowitz · · Score: 1

    They offer beer, they offer a trip to Romania... and now they have a free advert on Slashdot and free labour to test their program. And Slashdot editors, among others, fell for it...

    The winning formula:

    1. Set up a contest

    2. Make the reward intersting

    PRIZE = Get free ads

    3. Invite just the 'talented' few

    4. Users test program

    5. Hacks found and fixed

    PRICE = Profit!

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    1. Re:Free Ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up! The rest of us might like to drink all that beer en route to beautiful Romania... while you stay home and feel smug about silly contests.

    2. Re:Free Ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea freeeeeeeeeeee, as in they met with CowboyNeal in the dark black ally way with a suite case full of...

    3. Re:Free Ad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be a very intelligent man!

  18. Ummm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Shouldn't that be: "The most thorough beta taster will receive 1,000 German beers" HIC!

  19. Hmmm.... German beer... by Ulrich+Hobelmann · · Score: 1

    I only wonder what beer they are referring to.

    Germany has both the best and the worst beers I ever tasted.

    U.S. citizens: get Beck's, not Warsteiner... (or just as good, get Wisconsin beers, like Liney's or New Glarus)

    1. Re:Hmmm.... German beer... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      If you prefer stuff with 90% water (i.e. the stereotypical American beer) and happen to end up in Cologne, try Kölsch. It's the most watery beer Germany has to offer and it's made from liquid gold. At least the price seems to indicate that...


      (Note: The inhabitants of Cologne will tell you that Kölsch is the world's best beer. As someone who hates the taste of beer I can certainly vouch for that.)

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    2. Re:Hmmm.... German beer... by Ulrich+Hobelmann · · Score: 1

      Uuuh, no. The stereotypical American beer is rather bad, but with some exceptions (as I mentioned). I suspect Kölsch would be drinkable, like Alster ("real" beer with water) or maybe Krombacher, but I prefer the more spicy ones, like Beck's or even Jever once in a while.

      Of all the beers I've ever tried, Warsteiner must have been the worst ever, the best being Beck's (from my hometown!), Bass Ale (British), and New Glarus Spotted Cow & Native Ale (Wisconsin).

    3. Re:Hmmm.... German beer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Alster ("real" beer with water)"

      Actually, Alsterwasser, Alster or, in southern Germany, Radler is beer mixed with lemonade.

    4. Re:Hmmm.... German beer... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      90% water? What the hell is the other 10%?

      The typical american beer has no more than about 5% alcohol. I don't think it can be called beer if it's higher than 5.5%.

    5. Re:Hmmm.... German beer... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Informative

      According to the German Wikipedia article the strongest beer is an American beer ("Barley Johns Rosies Ale") with 28% alcohol (but you call anything above 4.5% malt liquor - which applies to most German beers). Also, I know that monks brewed some fairly strong beer which they consumed during lent.

      And yes, I should have written "99%". But you can interpret my figure as 90% water and 10% normal beer, which approximates what I meant, although it might only be 90% accurate. ;)

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  20. Can you take the beer home? by ArikTheRed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean... you don't have to drink them all on your trip, do you?

  21. Halloween Challenge: Pumpkin PC by mp3phish · · Score: 1

    I think this is a better halloween challenge: the Pumpkin PC

    look how awesome the fans look in the eyes and system just overall is top notch.

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  22. But I'm in Saudia Arabia by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Funny

    You insensitive infidel !

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  23. Looks Familiar by triso · · Score: 1
    Somehow, the opening paragraph on the "Welcome to the BitDefender-*nix Beta Test Page" page looks familiar:
    Das newest BitDefender is jetzt fuer testen, fingergepocken und mittengrabben! Ist easy und fun zu schnappen das springewerke, hangen und corkgepoppen mit spitzensparken, fur Prizes zu grabben!
    Also Installierenen Sie die Kit, relaxen und watchen die blinkenlights!
    Ah yes, "die blinkenlights."
  24. Bruce Schneier has written ... by apathy+maybe · · Score: 1

    on similar things. He basically says (and I agree), that inviting random people to attack (or beta test in this case) your software is not guarenteed to get the best result. I can't find the link though.

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  25. Obligatory ROBOT CHICKEN quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Count Chocula is a lying son of a bitch;
    my cereal most certainly does NOT scratch the roof of your mouth!

    -Captain Crunch