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Pluto's 3 Moons and a Probe to Study Them

It doesn't come easy writes "For those of you keeping score, Pluto now officially has three moons, with more possibly to follow. The newfound moons orbit about 27,000 miles (44,000 kilometers) from Pluto, more than twice as far as Charon, Pluto's other satellite. They are 5,000 times dimmer than Charon. The moons were found using the Hubble Space Telescope. For now, Pluto is the only Kuiper Belt object known to have satellites. Some nice images of Pluto and its moons are included in links. Enjoy!" Relatedly IZ Reloaded writes "NASA says the Atlas 5 rocket that will carry the New Horizons Pluto probe has suffered slight damage thanks to Hurricane Wilma. New Scientist reports: "The Atlas 5 rocket stands within a construction hangar at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on Florida's east coast. As Wilma rolled though the region on 24 October, fierce 122-kilometer-per-hour winds tore holes in the hangar's 83-meter-tall door and caused minor damage to the rocket inside.""

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  1. Nice? by lucabrasi999 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    some nice images of Pluto and its moons are included in links

    Nice? The photographs are a bunch of small white dots! Does anyone else see real photographs? I guess he is referring to the "artistic conceptual drawings"

    1. Re:Nice? by l2718 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A bunch of small white dots is very good, actually. The fact that both Pluto and Charon come out as extended objects in the short exposure picture is quite impressive in its own right. I wonder if the long exposure has better resolution or is smeared due to an imprefect correction for the relative motion of the telescope and Pluto. Any astronomers reading this?

  2. No other Kuiper Belt Objects have moons?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    For now, Pluto is the only Kuiper Belt object known to have satellites.

    My good friend UB313 would have to disagree.

    There are actually several known KBOs with moons. Or was the submitter being overly litteral and meant multiple moons?

    1. Re:No other Kuiper Belt Objects have moons?!? by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not only does Xena have a moon (Gabrielle), but so does Santa (Rudolph). Yes, for those who didn't know, there are minor planets out there whose discoverers not only want to name them after fictional lesbian TV characters, but also Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

      I don't know what the submitter was thinking when they wrote that statement.

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  3. Quite a few KBO have moons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unlike what the poster said, Pluto is not the only one with a moon.
    Various other KBOs do, including Xena :
    http://www.planetary.org/news/2005/xena_moon_1003. html

  4. Or by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pluto now officially has three moons

    More like "four big asteroids are gravitating around each other beyond the orbit of Neptune".

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  5. Re:Hey now! by mctk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Those aren't moons. Those are space stations.

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  6. Pluto has 3 moons? by Viper+Daimao · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does that mean we can call them "Cerebus" collectively?

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  7. Re:Actually... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...it's not even official yet

    Okay then: "two big asteroids are known to be orbiting around each other beyond Neptune, but two more are presumed to have joined the party, which incidentally pisses Neptune off to high heavens".

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  8. Classification by Da3vid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it really a big deal when we name something a moon? Its just a matter of relativity. A planet, a moon, an asteroid, a rock... they're all the same thing, that varies by degrees. I suppose the things orbital path is of interest, but how much can we really learn just by applying labels? We didn't learn anything about the true scientific nature of those bodies, we just named them. I think I'll name them Susanna, Melinda and Jim.

    -Da3vid-

  9. Re:Hubble by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny
    Yeah, I can see why too:


    Dubya: we need to kill Hubble. We have more, erhm.., pressing needs for money
    Hubble astronomers: No wait! We found another Pluto moon !
    NASA: come on, we can't kill the thing, it's useful
    Dubya: hmm, I dunno...
    Astronomers: Wait! wait! anOTHER moon!!
    NASA: Wow
    Dubya: stop that...
    Astronomers: Hold on... HOLY CRAP, TEN MORE MOONS! and a black hole inside Jupiter too!!!
    Dubya: We're closing guys, you need to go home now...
    Astronomers: NO REALLY! LOOK! ALL THESE MOONS!!! ...

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  10. Re:Nice? I am not a professional astronomer, but.. by Razor+Sex · · Score: 5, Informative

    1) The impactor, known alternately as Orpheus or Theia, has been modeled to have been about the size of Mars, and to have hit Earth at a very oblique angle. 2) The absolute best evidence we have for the theory is that the moon has essentially no iron core. All the other terrestrial planets do. As it turns out, the comosition of the moon is remarkably similar to that of Earth's mantle (oxygen/silicon). It is theorized that most of Theia's core merged with our own. Earth's mean density is, if I recall, something on the order of 5500 kg/m^3. The moon has a mean density of something like 3300 kg/m^3. If you were to take out the Earth's iron/nickle core and replace it with mantle material, it would have a mean density similar to that of the moon. 3) As an astronomy minor and having taken planetary formation courses, I've never heard anything about carbonaceous chondrite cores forming the basic building blocks of planets. Carbon, counterintuitively, isn't even too abundant on Earth. Or anywhere else for that matter. Or rather, there certainly is a lot of it, but not compared to oxygen, silicon, iron, aluminum, etc. 4) You can't compare the models of planetary formation in the inner solar system to the outer. Not on a 1:1 basis. The outer planets are significantly larger than the inner because they formed past the frost line (about halfway through the asteroid belt). After this line, ice stays in crystalline form, allowing the rocky starts of the other planets to aggregate much more mass, both planetary and gaseous (the rocky core of Jupiter, at least, is probably about 20 times the size of Earth). With this much more mass, they can more easily capture smaller planetismals, which become moons. It would be far, far easier for a Jupiter to capture Luna than for Earth. 5) As alluded to in the beignning of this post, computer simulations have been done on both the capture and impact theories (including many variations of). The impact theory works. The capture does not. 6) That we have plate tectonics, significant ocean basins, etc, could also be construed as evidence for the giant impact theory. Venus has no moons, and there is little evidence that it ever underwent plate tectonics. The same goes for Mars, and I assume Mercury, though I am not sure on the latter. But the most important thing here is #2. That's the smoking gun.