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How Do I Determine If My PC is a Zombie?

Captain Chad wonders: "With the recent news of a 1.5-million node botnet, as well as the AIM rootkit worm, I'm getting a bit concerned about whether my PC may be a zombie. I'm seeing a lot of internet activity, even when nothing is running, and I've checked the process explorer for obvious tasks to no avail. I apply patches as soon as they're released, and my antivirus/spyware programs report nothing. How do I determine if my PC is a zombie, and if it is, how would I de-infect it?" On this same vein, college campuses are often prime breeding grounds for undead-boxen. bcrowell adds: "I'm a teacher at a community college where Windows is the only supported OS -- if you ask the school to put machine on your desk, you get a Windows box. Faculty who want to run MacOS or Linux have had to provide their own machines, and those who want to do PowerPoint presentations for their classes have been told that they have to buy their own laptops and bring them in.

Now Academic Computing has announced a new policy: any unauthorized use of the network, such as plugging in your own computer to a port, is prohibited, and will result in disciplinary action. There are supposedly plans to enforce this rule automatically with hardware and software. Great consternation has ensued in the faculty senate, and the manager who wrote the policy has explained that it is basically aimed at the problem of improperly maintained teachers' machines getting '0wned'. A little ironic, because the Windows boxes maintained by the computing folks keep getting infected by worms. Still, it's not an unreasonable concern; many teachers are clueless. In fact, I wouldn't pretend to know enough to keep a Windows machine secure on a public network, although I haven't had any problem with the FreeBSD box on my desk. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Effective arguments to use? Good educational resources to point people to so they can learn how to keep their Windows boxes secure? Many of my colleagues seem to think that security mainly involves buying antivirus software."

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  1. What kind of internet Activity? by satterth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Really... What kind of internet activity are you seeing? Are the lights blinking and you have no idea what is actually happening or are processes on your box accessing IRC servers accross the world without your knowledge?

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  2. In everyday terms - by bscott · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I see a lot of people offering some moderatly technical advice, but perhaps a simpler answer to the question is - there's no one easy, foolproof, turnkey way to reliably determine whether your Windows machine is infected.

    There are too many different types of malware around - virii, spyware, rootkits, trojans, and so on - each of which has new twists coming up almost daily. No single development team or company can keep up, and there are too many out there trying for there even to be a dominant player (and if there were, malware would promptly be rewritten to undermine the anti-malware utility in question...).

    You will either need to learn how to use some of the tools others in this thread mention (it's not as hard as it may seem at first - try running them on a system you can be confident is clean, and become familiar with what "safe" traffic looks like, then try yours), or be prepared to pay hefty $ for expert help, or switch to another OS.

    FWIW, I've run un-patched Windows2k for years without trouble, largely because I use a hardware NAT (firewall) and avoid Outlook. Even so, I am careful to avoid clicking on the wrong things online, and I am working towards moving to Linux ASAP.

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  3. Dealing with Stupid, Lazy, or Malicious IT by Noksagt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    There are a number of ways to get around arbitrary rules. Either overtly or covertly.
    if you ask the school to put machine on your desk, you get a Windows box. Faculty who want to run ... Linux have had to provide their own machines
    You can ask for permission to dual-boot. Or, if you already have permission to install your own software, you can do it covertly. I would not advise wiping the Windows partition--you can boot into it when IT starts snooping around & also some might have a problem with you removing licensed software. Failing this, run from a LiveCD/USB key. Or run coLinux or run it under QEMU, VMWare, or similar.
    Great consternation has ensued in the faculty senate
    Cause greater consternation & bring it over IT's heads. Bring it to the President of the school or the trustees. An army of pissed off faculty will beat a lazy IT head any day.
    Any suggestions on how to deal with this?
    In addition to the above, you can probably ask for a special exception & say you are willing to take the blame if your FreeBSD box gets rooted. Once you show minimum competency & need, as well as the willingness to put your ass on the line instead of theirs, IT will probably cave.
    Effective arguments to use?
    The most effective argument is you can't otherwise do your job. Show that you need FreeBSD. Another good argument is obviously to point out the past infections of campus-maintained machines. Tell them you'll firewall your machine from the University network, both to protect you from it & it from you.