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SCO Tells Courts What IBM Did Wrong

linumax writes "It took more than two and a half years, but the SCO Group finally has disclosed a list of areas it believes IBM violated its Unix contract, allegedly by moving proprietary Unix technology into open-source Linux. In a five-page document filed Friday, SCO attorneys say they identify 217 areas in which it believes IBM or Sequent, a Unix server company IBM acquired, violated contracts under which SCO and its predecessors licensed the Unix operating system. However, the curious won't be able to see for themselves the details of SCO's claims: The full list of alleged abuses were filed in a separate document under court seal. The Lindon, Utah-based company did provide some information about what it believes IBM moved improperly to Linux, though."

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  1. Hopefully by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well hopefully this will help us get to the point where the court tells IBM what SCO did wrong.

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  2. Jay Leno by /ASCII · · Score: 2, Funny

    This sounds like a good candidate for 'Tonights Top-Ten list'.

    Aaaaand the number one Copyright infringement made by IBM is.... /* Copyright 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. */

    The crowd goes wild!

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  3. Linux/Unix by SpaceAdmiral · · Score: 5, Funny

    I notice the words Linux and Unix share many of the same letters. Guilty!

  4. The list... by laptop006 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The character 'a'
    The character 'b'
    The character 'c' ...
    The character 'A' ...
    The character '{'

    You get the idea.

    But seriously, most of them sound very dodgy, and the JFS issue has already been looked over by people better then SCO.

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  5. Apple should just buy out SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Somebody's got to own Unix, why not Apple and Steve Jobs? Jobs' number one priority is serving the customer.

  6. They just don't know when to quit, do they? by DrLlama · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The numerosity and substantiality of the disclosures" - Look out, they're languaging again!

    All kidding aside, I continue to find it astonishing that given everything that has gone on before SCO is still persuing this. I'd dearly love to see the 217 ways they've been wronged.

    It's getting downright pathetic....

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  7. First Time For Everything... by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > SCO Tells Courts What IBM Did Wrong

    What you are witnessing is real. The participants are not actors. They are actual litigants with a case pending in a U.S. District court. Both parties have agreed to dismiss their court cases and have their disputes settled here! In our forum! The People's Court!

    Judge Yakov Smirnoff (Ret.) presiding.

  8. Re:What Next? by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 5, Funny
    IBM shared "methods and concepts,"

    such concepts as:

    for( int i = 0; i < someValue; i++ ) {

    and let us not forget the rampent use of:

    while(1) {

    that's in the linux kernel

  9. Attorney Conversation by thebdj · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCO Attorney 1: You know this is a waste of time right?
    SCO Attorney 2: Yeah but those idiots are still paying us.
    SCO Attorney 1: How much longer can they pay us to do this?
    SCO Attorney 2: Maybe another year or two.
    SCO Attorney 1: What then?
    SCO Attorney 2: Well we will either win the case and be filthy rich while they are still broke, or we'll just apply for jobs with Microsoft and repeat the process with someone else.
    SCO Attorney 1: BRILLIANT!

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  10. What me worry ?? by DangerSteel · · Score: 4, Funny

    One day my linux license from SCO will be worth it's weight in gold ! actually I never really bought one, I only look that stupid....

  11. A Large Ball of Light... by lax-goalie · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...was reported in the sky over Virginia last night.

    Astronomers initially believed it was a meteor, but it was later determined to be SCO's case against IBM cratering spectacularly...

  12. Five pages, 217 "areas of infringement" by StevenMaurer · · Score: 1, Funny

    By my count, that's 43 "areas" per page. Each "area" is one or two lines.
    Not much specificity in there, methinks.

    They probably filed it under seal to keep the whole OSS community from howling in laughter.

  13. How much did they pay this lawyer? by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Funny

    FTA: "The numerosity and substantiality of the disclosures reflects the pervasive extent and sustained degree as to which IBM disclosed methods, concepts, and in many places, literal code, from Unix-derived technologies in order to enhance the ability of Linux to be used as a scalable and reliable operating system for business and as an alternative to proprietary Unix systems such as those licensed by SCO and others." -- attributed to SCO

    Commenting on a disclosure in big words doesn't make the complaint any more valid. I mean, sure, I've a propensity to bloviate without regard to efficient communications strategies and verbal deployments utilizing synergistic vocabularistic qualities to increase comprehension.

    But, why can't they say "IBM broke our contract by using our proprietary ideas to make their software work as well as ours. They did it so much that it was obviously intentional and illegal." (note: I am not accepting this as fact)

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  14. Re:What Next? by Iriel · · Score: 5, Funny
    This still just looks like a fishing expedition by SCO.

    You obviously can't spell phishing. You forget that SCO is trying to pass themselves off to the courts as a reasonable group.
    </toungeincheek>
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  15. I have some inside information... by nicholaides · · Score: 3, Funny
    I don't know if I'm supposed to be posting this on /. but I have some inside information. I had the priviledge of seeing some of the code that SCO says Linux stole, and I believe SCO has a very strong case. There were many instances where Linux took SCO's code almost verbatim. Many instances looked like this:
    for (i=0; i<size; ++i)
    {
    /*... omitted for vagueness ...*/
    }
    and often times:
    if ( /*... some condition ...*/ ) {
    /*... do something ...*/
    }
    Often times variable names, such would be changed, and the code in the middle was alwaysn altered to have different functionality, no doubt in an attempt to cover their tracks.

    I think if you saw the code SCO provided, you would see that Linux blatantly stole huge chunks of code almost verbatim.
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  16. Re:What Next? by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 4, Funny

    while(1) {

    Well then, this is a good thing. Maybe SCO should realize that their kernel shouldn't contain an endless while(true) loop-- that explains many problems.

  17. Oh Really... by eno2001 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is just as ridiculous as the Count from Sesame Street claiming that he has a list of IP violations in Linux in the SCO case. I can hear it now:

    "One! One IP violation!!! Hahahahahah! Two!! Two IP violations!!!! Ahahahahaha!!!!"...

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  18. This Fall's Blockbuster Hit! by RoffleTheWaffle · · Score: 2, Funny

    LINUX LAWSUIT 2: RETURN OF THE SCO

    Coming to a courthouse near you!

  19. Re:What Next? by someone1234 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm, you said endless loop? Like in: while(true) { litigate(); }

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  20. Re:What Next? by Capt+James+McCarthy · · Score: 2, Funny

    The code resides within SCO: While($CASH_TO_BE_HAD) { threatentosue(); } threatentosue() { createfalsepsudoclaims(); makeamountenoughtobecheapertosettleoutofcourt(); return cash; }

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  21. Re:What Next? by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 3, Funny

    And in the XML era, you really need to watch those angle brackets.

  22. Re:MOD PARENT UP (Re:Five pages, 217 violations?) by shotfeel · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's what I keep telling my kids!

    But they keep modding me -1 Redundant (or worse).

  23. Re:What Next? by rcw-work · · Score: 3, Funny
    I imagine that Knuth is looking over my shoulder

    I'm glad you have an imagination, because unfortunately Knuth probably isn't. The Daily WTF could be, however it might be a while before they get around to you.

  24. Re:What Next? by psyon1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry, you forgot an exclamation point.

    while(!true) { litigate(); }

  25. Re:Really? No percentage of the damages? by Rolan · · Score: 2, Funny
    Not that it's a good bet, but when lawyers agree to a cap on complex litigation, there's usually a 1/3 award fee at the other end...
    As I said....the SCO lawyers stopped getting paid a while back. ;)
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