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Supreme Court Rejects Microsoft Eolas Appeal
mixmasterjake writes "The U.S. Supreme Court has decided not to hear a Microsoft appeal in the software company's ongoing Web browsing patent dispute with the University of California and Eolas Technologies. The dispute arises over the Eolas patent for 'a system allowing a user of a browser program ... to access and execute an embedded program object.' From the article: "With today's decision, the Supreme Court decided not to hear Microsoft's argument relating to how damages in the case should be calculated. Microsoft had been asking the court to reject a previous ruling that damages should be awarded based on Microsoft's U.S. and foreign sales, saying that the Eolas patent should only apply to U.S. products. The Supreme Court did not give a reason for its rejection of Microsoft's appeal."
And all the libs said Roberts was in the pocket of Big Business... Guess they were wrong?
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Microsoft gets to eat it's own medicine. Maybe they'll start to realize how bad software patents really are. Patents aren't an universal tool that should be used in every field of science.
has to be reformed. Such a basic idea shouldn't be patentable, even when it costs a giant like Microsoft.
Microsoft had already been dealt a $520.6 million judgement in the case two years ago
How much does Microsoft clear in profit every month, over one billion dollars? This isn't much money to them.
Bradley Holt
Ok, this is Slashdot, and therefore anything that Microsoft does is supposed to be bad. But, I still can't bring myself to embrace obvious software patents. I did RTFA, but I have not looked at the patent itself -- so perhaps it isn't obvious. Still, I can't help but think this does not bode well for the internet in general.
Sure MS has strong-armed some competitors in the past and probably stolen an idea or two (Stac compression comes to mind), but I would have preferred to see the patent overturned...
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Eolas's patent, which covers web browser plugins, should never have been awarded -- let alone validated by the USPTO. As it stands, no browser that supports plugin technology is immune from Eolas, a one-man-show run by a university professor.
The patent needs to be thrown out immediately; the amount of prior art must be staggering.
For the future of the web, this is a case you'll want Microsoft to win, ultimately.
I say this as someone who is no fan of Microsoft, and who is actually a student at the University of California--Microsoft's loss is bad for open source. Microsoft was simply the biggest fish Eolas could go after. Now they're going to demand royalties from all other browser makers, which could spell big trouble for Mozilla.
... to access and execute an embedded program object." Sounds like it would cover browser support for Java and perhaps JavaScript embedded in web pages.
I hope I'm wrong--please tell me this isn't going to kill open source web browsers.
The UC/Eolas patent covers "a system allowing a user of a browser program
Crap.
all i have to say on this.. in this case microsoft is obviously the lessser of two evils. when the US economy and government finally collapse under the accrued debt.. i hope the framers of the next constitution require intro to computer science for political candidacy. The level of technological idiocy reflected in our judges and politicians has plummeted so far under the bottom of the barrel it's actually made its way several thousand feet into the chinese sky.
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I run Gentoo Linux, how does this affect me?
Actually, it affects any system running any browser. If the validity of EOLAS patent is confirmed in court - and it looks quite possible right now - all modern browsers will have to be rewritten to avoid patent infringement. This means also that majority of websites will have to be redesigned in one way or another. So even if you use Lynx as your only web surfing tool - you are affected. Don't take the sectarian attitude "when Microsoft has problems it's always good news".
"I'm with Microsoft on this one". Patents on software and business practises are the greater evil here.
However with Microsoft's extensive patent portfolio, I wonder just how hard they're trying with this case. Perhaps they intend to lose in order to set a legal precedent for software patents. Maybe Eolas has offerred them several key patents if they 'take one for the team', that would both make Eolas rich(er) and allow MS to pursue litigation against other firms.
Let's face it, if MS did start defending all its patents and winning, they would manage to close down just about every small software house left.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
This story is really about the invidious patenting of ideas rather than actual inventions. Such patenting of software processes is not about protecting intellectual property or a partuclar working design of some new gizmo.
The entire point of software patents like this is to stifle innovation by preventing anybody, including Microsoft, from reverse engineering the process by any means. That's not patenting because you have a product on the market that you're trying to protect, it's a form of intellectual highway robbery by digging a big hole in the road and then charging people to cross the hole using the one bridge and the police preventing people from going around the hole.
As far as Microsoft is concerned, I feel no sympathy. Microsoft has aggressively tried to corner and stifle competition by collecting as many of these software or business process patents as it can. Now it gets bitten by somebody else doing the same thing. "He who lives by the software patent also get shafted by the software patent"
Microsoft should be like Earl: call it "karma" and seek to redress people for what it has done. But first, Bill Gates needs to get caught in a hit-and-run accident while holding a winning scratch card.
Unless there is urgent action to void these "business process through software" patents, then it will be the rest of the world, China, India and especially Europe which will benefit from innovation and not the US. In America, software patents are causing the pace of innovation to slow while costing eveybody more money, and jamming up the Patent system with these mendatious patent claims.
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"Microsoft had been asking the court to reject a previous ruling that damages should be awarded based on Microsoft's U.S. and foreign sales, saying that the Eolas patent should only apply to U.S. products. The Supreme Court did not give a reason for its rejection of Microsoft's appeal"
Here's a good reason for you: as a US company, you should abide by US patent law, even if you sell overseas. Just because the business is done outside the US does not mean it's exempt from patent protections.
Microsoft above all should be aware of this sort of thing--it's exactly like the tactics they were using with Lee going to work for Google. Washington (the state) would say "He can't go right to work there", and California would say "Come on in, here's your desk".