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Xbox 360 'Must Sell Out' on Release Day

tlhIngan writes "According to a Norwegian retailer (as reported by Gizmodo), Microsoft's making some peculiar demands during the XBox 360 launch. In particular, each retailer is to get 20 XBox 360 consoles (6 core editions, and 14 premium editions). However, to get the full allocation, they have to ensure they will sell out on the day of release (December 2nd over there)! Plus, each console must leave the store with at *least* two games each. Is Microsoft marketing like the beanie babies again - using 'Sold Out!' as a way to hype the popularity of their machine? It may appear to be, since Microsoft recently slowed down production of the XBox 360 as well."

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  1. Bundles. by Guspaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "each console must leave the store with at *least* two games each."

    In other words they are FORCING the $700+ bundles that stores like GameStop are trying to force on customers, except Microsoft is ensuring that EVERY retailer in the country does this so that consumers have no choice. Nice.

    1. Re:Bundles. by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Well, the "choice" is to wait 24 hours instead of jumping into the mosh pit to be one of the first 20 Norwegians in the door on December 2.

      I certainly regard these schemes to use consumer frenzies for PR as degrading to human dignity, but it's not like you have to be one of the idiots trampling each other at 5 am on "Black Friday".

    2. Re:Bundles. by Allison+Geode · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and i got called a troll for saying the cost of the system was $500. (the core system is *not* what most people will want to buy (and even if they do, you still have to buy a memory card, since it has no hard drive, so kiss another $30 away for that, and then you have a function system without a game), and yes, you do need to get at least one game, but if you're getting one, why not two, or at least an extra controller so your friend can play too?

      the cost of a launch console isn't the price on the box. you have to have a game to use with it.... expect to spend at least $500 (in the states at least) before you have an xbox 360 that you can actually do anything with.

      me? i'll stick with last generation until the prices drop to the realm of sanity. i expect that to happen fairly quick. you hardcore people can blow your cash however you like, but the masses won't likely be dropping $500 for a new xbox for little Bobby this x-mas.

  2. Ah, those crazy retailers by Keeper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sounds very much like the retail chains' requirements, not Microsoft's.

  3. Possible reason by theantipop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Another possible reason they are doing this is that they want to get the machines only in the hands of the hardcore gamers and Xbox fans. Doing so will generate a lot of positive buzz. Along with the beanie baby type marketing mentioned, it could result in a huge second push of sales. That seems a bit far-fetched and conspiracy like, but you never know when it comes to MS marketing.

    1. Re:Possible reason by Bastian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That seems a bit far-fetched and conspiracy like

      No, it seems to me like exactly what you would want to do if you were a huge corporation pushing a huge product but wanted to create a huge viral marketing campaign without *too* much effort on your part.

      If it really is what MS is trying to do, I think it's a master stroke on their part. The 360 is launching way ahead of any console in its generation, so Microsoft has plenty of time to sacrifice initial launch sales in favor of higher sales in the long run.

    2. Re:Possible reason by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The drawback is that word of mouth has more time to spread. So if the launch games suckl and the guys who got one are disappointed they have enough time to tell all their friends before they buy one.

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  4. Then lower the prices by EnronHaliburton2004 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This sounds silly, but the traditional way to "sell out" of an item is to lower it's price. Keeping the price high by artificial fixed prices means that it's hard to "sell out".

    I briefly considered buying an Xbox360, but then I saw the price. Forget it. My 3 year old computer provides enough game power for my needs. Maybe I'll buy a used console in a year or two.

    1. Re:Then lower the prices by ExpressCode · · Score: 2, Insightful
      They aren't keeping the price high by artificially fixed prices. They are keeping the ideal pricing point high by limiting supply.

      I don't think getting a high price was their main goal with restricting the availability. They don't have to restrict the availability of 360s in order to get $500 (or whatever it is). They can simply refuse to sell it for less than their desired price. I think the point is (as an earlier poster commented) to make sure the only people who get a 360 is the person willing to stand in line at 5AM . . . the Microsoft fan who believes the system will be great without having heard the buzz from friends who already own it. This kind of consumer will be more likely to go around bragging about their great system and feed the viral marketing.

  5. Re:That's so frustrating! by BRock97 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's funny, as a guy who has owned and played nearly everything from the Atari 2600 through the Gamecube, I can't help but comment on how underwhelmed I am with this launch. To be honest, there isn't one title that is compelling me to go out and get the 360, which is somewhat surprising. PS2 had Tekken 4, Gamecube had Star Wars, and the XBox had Halo (all fantastic games and worth the price of admission), but nothing is trippin' the old game thumbs this time around.
     
    To be honest, I wish Microsoft would have gulped down a ittle pride and pushed the release back six months. All the press is pointing to the PS3 not being a threat until later in 2006 so Microsoft would still have had that window to establish a strong first response. I would get excited about some of the other features such as the online stuff for FPS and the integrated Media Center functionality, but my mouse and keyboard are too cherished (hear that Microsoft! Let us use our mouse and keyboards and you would have me at "hello") and from what I have read, the Media Center functionality is limited to 720P playback for HDTV content from the media center PC. (Note: I said HDTV playback, not games. I am aware that the 360 can do games up to 1080i, but I would want my video there, too. Plus, they aren't even going to upscale DVDs!)
     
    So, I too will probably wait from something really high-profile like Halo3 to come out. As much as I wanted to get to my local Best Buy at 5 A.M., I think I will pass this round.....

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  6. Lack of choices always bad for consumer by Jtheletter · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is the kind of thing that has always pissed me off about consoles, they bundle the console and force a certain package on you. This means that you end up spending more than you want and getting things you're not interested in. When I got my first xbox it was bundled with Clone Wars/Tetris (no interest) and before that the family xbox was bundled with Jetset Radio (again zero interest). If these games were free with the system, or if there were a choice of games it would be ok, but as it was you were basically forced to pay and extra $55 for games you probably didn't care about. And because of the (IMHO) crappy play value of these games coupled with the huge number of them out there, you could get maybe $5 reselling them to the store.

    Now not only are gamers going to be forced to buy price-inflated bundles yet again, but the store won't even sell them the system if they don't drop another $100+ right then and there for two other games. I suppose if you're set on being a first adopter you'll find something you want but if you really don't care for the release titles and would rather save the extra $65 for Halo3 or something, well tough titty you're out of luck, no system for you.

    Console manufacturers need to find a better way to make back costs w/o screwing over the consumer. If I want to buy just a plain console, one controller and a single game of my choosing then I should be able to. Bundles just artificially increase system prices so M$ can take less of a loss on first-sales. This is no way to treat the customers who are your primary supporters (the first-to-have crowd), although they tend to buy at any price - only making it easier for M$ to take advantage of them. And the artifical scarcity tactic only disgusts and insults me as a consumer. Either sell your product or don't but screwing around with supply to inflate demand only serves to alienate and disappoint people who are already interested in buying your product. Sorry for the rant.

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    1. Re:Lack of choices always bad for consumer by Spit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now not only are gamers going to be forced to buy price-inflated bundles yet again,

      Nobody's forcing you to do anything. If you don't think the options are worth the money, don't buy. It's that easy.

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  7. My predictions... by Max+Nugget · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't wish ill on the XBox, I think it's generally been a positive influence on the gaming industry. Here's what I think might happen though:

    1. XBox 360 is released, and immediately falls into the hands of the "hardcore gamers." Invariably, most people buy a copy of Perfect Dark Zero as one of their two bundled games.

    2. Those who didn't buy PDZ will tend to be disappointed, as the rest of the XBox 360 game line-up will fall somewhere between "pathetic" and "not bad but I feel like an idiot for spending $700 to play this. Where are the "OMG THAT'S AMAZING!" games???

    3. These gamers, having already spent $700, will be very hesitant to spend money buying any additional games. They MIGHT be convinced to buy PDZ via word-of-mouth, hoping it's the magic game to help them justify the new system the bought.

    4. Many will try to return or sell the 360, looking to back out of their $700 commitment. Anyone who *can* jump ship will try their damndest to do so.

    5. Those who bought PDZ will either be happy with their system purchase, or majorly disappointed, depending on whether the game turns out to be good or not. If they're disappointed, Microsoft's word-of-mouth strategy will backfire. A consumer who is on the fence, thinking "hmmm it's $700 should I go for it," it's only gonna take a tiny little bit of negative buzz to turn them away.

    6. Instead of "it must be awesome it's sold out everywhere," the mindset will be "I'm glad *I* wasn't so crazy as to spend $700 on an XBox 360. That would've been CRAZY." This means they'll need even MORE motivation to buy the system than they did at launch date. The "sold out" strategy, too, has now backfired.

    7. By now it's time for the holidays. At $600-700, the 360 systems won't appear under that many Christmas trees. The ones they do appear under, the people who REALLY wanted them and pushed the limits of holiday funds to get them, will also be the first to return them, when the pendulum swings back the other direction. This is especially the case when these people consider that the PS3 launch is only 4 months away and that $700 of holiday money is the only way they'll be able to afford the PS3. It's a chance at redemption from a bad holiday shopping move.

    8. At this point it's around January. By now, some more "killer apps" or pseudo-killer apps have hopefully hit the market, bolstering the 360. MS will now have 1 or 2 months to build momentum before the PS3 launch starts to loom near. They now have to fight the initial negative buzz AND the additional negative buzz from the holiday season (which will be a disappointment both in sales and marketing effect).

    9. Now it's ~February. Hype is building around the PS3. Pre-orders are piling up. The next-generation graphics the XBox 360 failed to deliver are now the promise of the powerful Playstation 3. Most importantly, XBox 360 sales will grind to a halt for the simple fact that nobody is going to buy the 360 when they can take a wait-and-see approach by waiting 2 months to see what the reaction is to the PS3. And of course the 360 will probably have a price drop to try to better compete with Sony's debut.

    10. The PS3 is released. Sony will no doubt make sure they've got some killer apps on launch, most notably Metal Gear Solid 4. The PS3 will likely live up to most of its hype, or at least definitively deliver to gamers what they thought they were getting with the 360 last year. If Blu-Ray high-definition movies have seiged the market by April, this will be another feather in Sony's hat, even amongst those that don't have HD sets. It's a tipping point, a useless tech spec that makes you nervous about buying the "other" system that only plays mere DVDs.

    11. The console war "proper" begins. Microsoft, battle-worn, will have its cushy lead, but that lead advantage could easily be wiped out if initial PS3 sales are strong, making all of Microsoft's marketing efforts over the past 6 months all for naught. Also of note, targeting the "hardcore" gamers may prove less lucrativ

  8. Japan-style launch by cgenman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Thank you for saying this.

    The Xbox 360 seems like the first Japan-style worldwide launch: Out of the gate early with few supporting games. Japanese consumers are notoriously technophilic, and in the past have bought systems on the promise of future titles and little else. US consumers have appeared the opposite: punishing the N64 for releasing with just 3 titles (even if one was one of the greatest games ever), and the Saturn for a similarly non-stellar launch.

    Both were going up against competition, though, and that is where the key lies. If Microsoft knows the battle is ahead, as they are waiting for the PS3 to launch Halo 3. For now, they seem contented to launch with what appear to be underwhelming but nice games, and get a few buys before digging in their heels for the PS3 and Revolution launches. Once great games start being sold, we'll have a real battle on our hands. Expect to see blood in Christmas 2006 and 2007. This? This is just the pre-show.