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Smart Bees Continue to Draw Interest

Roland Piquepaille writes "Researchers from University College London (UCL) have shown that bees are able to solve complicated color puzzles. In their study, bees were trained to find artificial flowers containing a nectar reward and colored in blue. Then they removed the nectar and put at random artificial flowers illuminated by yellow, blue, yellow and green lights. But wherever the blue flowers were, the bees continued to select them even if there was no longer a reward. These findings may soon lead to the design of sophisticated visual systems for autonomous robots."

20 comments

  1. Not Smart by pavon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The story here isn't that bees are smart - this is simple pavlovian association going on, not any sort of problem solving. The story is that they are able to recognize the color of objects that are complexly lit.

  2. smart? by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They keep going for it after it stops paying? Funny, we hear that octopus are smart because they don't.

    Someone confused "memory" with "intelligence" again.

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  3. So... by Spytap · · Score: 4, Funny

    In other news my dog can find and separate his medical pills even when they're complexly hidden in cheese. He has self-trained to reject the pill and spit it on the floor while still consuming the cheese.

    This may possibly soon lead to complex robotic cheese/pill separators for robots that have colds.

    1. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other news my dog can find and separate his medical pills even when they're complexly hidden in cheese. He has self-trained to reject the pill and spit it on the floor while still consuming the cheese.


      That's hillarious, my dog used to do the same thing.

      In the end, we just gave her the pill without the cheese and she'd eat that without any problems.

  4. Pre-emptive strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    1) Imagine a beowulf cluster of apiaries with such bees.
    2) a) Train bee
          b) ?????
          c) Profit!
    3) I for one, welcome our new smart color bee overlords
    4) In Soviet Russia, the bee sees *you*
    5) I'm allergic to bees, you insensitive clod!
    6) Trained bees? Won't somebody think of the children!
    7) Netcraft confirms: the bees are dying
    8) All your nectar are belong to bees.
    9) Those are right-wing, neocon bees.
    10) Bees teh sux! Wasps 4evar!
    11) All I wanted was some frickin color-distinguishing bees with some frickin laserbeams!
    12) In my day, we had bees that could distinguish flowers by taste or smell, at 100 yards, in a snowstorm. And liked it!
    13) I don't see any b33#$(*&#$(*#& NO CARRIER

    1. Re:Pre-emptive strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oooooh, so close! That was a very nice try. But you forgot one:
      14) "In Korea, only old bees see blue."

    2. Re:Pre-emptive strike by Spytap · · Score: 1

      Missed one:
      "Blue Bees: No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

    3. Re:Pre-emptive strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bee-emptive strike?

  5. Hmmm... by rubberbando · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that they have found a way to get a bee attracted to something, maybe they should look for a way to repel bees from things like people and picnics!

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by antdude · · Score: 1

      You mean wasps, not bees. You forgot ants. :)

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    2. Re:Hmmm... by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 1

      Don't wear blue.

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  6. Smart bees continue to draw interest? by fonetik · · Score: 5, Funny

    5 Comments in 45 minutes? This must be some strange use of the word "Interest" that I was previously unaware of.

    1. Re:Smart bees continue to draw interest? by haydenth · · Score: 1

      I think people see the name "Roland Piquepaille" and skip over the article.

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  7. Gratuitous family guy quote. by kasper37 · · Score: 4, Funny

    And coming up next, can bees think? A new study confirms that, no, no they cannot.

    1. Re:Gratuitous family guy quote. by Slant675 · · Score: 1

      lol - more well spent government funding. :)

      I do think that the research regarding this color recognition business was a good move though!

    2. Re:Gratuitous family guy quote. by Dmac1985 · · Score: 1

      Was waiting for someone to reference that quote. First thing that came to my mind when I read the article.

  8. Other research showed by PGC · · Score: 1

    ... bees have 'eyes' and are capable of 'sight'.

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  9. Yeah, and? by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 1, Funny

    I personally don't see what all the buzz is about...

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  10. You missed one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    14) Oh, yeah, what are you gonna do? Release the smart dogs? Or the smart bees? Or the smart dogs with smart bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot smart bees at you?

  11. Perhaps they're overreaching just a bit... by ohmypolarbear · · Score: 1
    ... when they say that now we know how it all works.

    ... or, in fact, that "Bees solve complex colour puzzles." I think most readers would assume, when they see a title like that, that there would be some sort of, you know, puzzle involved in the experiment. I'll give them complexity; this is not a trivial vision task. "Puzzle" suggests, to me, something more like maybe learning to choose the middle wavelength of a set of three colors, at the very least. Maybe even logic or something.

    ...we didn't know whether they could also do this under more complicated conditions, ones that are in fact more typical in nature, such as dappled light across a woodland floor.
    I know bees can find flowers in the forest. I see them when I go hiking. The breakthrough here is finding a way to approximate the same sort of stimulus in a laboratory setting.
    ... suggests they do so by using the colour relationships between objects in a scene that were statistically most useful in their past experience. Because this same strategy is also used by humans...
    I don't know very much about insect neuroscience in particular, but data from the study of higher animals (monkeys, humans, rats, cats, some birds, and others) strongly suggests that this type of statistical pattern extraction is what is taking place. Computer modeling systems involving neurally-inspired architectures (neural nets) also indicate that this sort of behavior arises naturally from these systems and so is a computationally plausible explanation as well. I'm very surprised to read that they didn't think this was a possible model for bee brains as well.
    ...may enable us to understand the general principles by which any visual system (natural or artificial) can construct useful behaviour from ambiguous sensory information.
    We may some day get as far as being able to "construct useful behavior," but all this study can do is shed some insight into how a visual system can construct useful representations from ambiguous sensory information. The construction of useful behavior in this study happened when they trained the bee to go prefer a particular color. Then they used that useful behavior to find out just what the bee could see.

    In conclusion: a very useful study, that gives us important new information to help us figure out how visual systems in particular, and bee brains in particular, extract useful information from confusing data. But all of the grandstanding about complex puzzles and computer vision? I say they're blowing steam out their... um... stingers.