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Shuttleworth's Commitment to Kubuntu and KDE

An anonymous reader writes "The Ubuntu Below Zero conference is in full momentum this week and Kubuntu has been prominent throughout. In his opening remarks at the start of the conference Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine and said he wanted Kubuntu to move to a first class distribution within the Ubuntu community. Free CDs for Kubuntu through shipit should be available for the next release if the planned Live CD Installer removes the need for a separate install CD."

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  1. The only major KDE distro? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    So, with the earlier announcement that Novell/SUSE is giving up KDE in favour of Gnome, does this mean that Kubuntu is now the only major KDE-based Linux distribution? How far can they get on Shuttleworth's money, when all the big boys are throwing their money behind Gnome? I would bet that whatever the advantages of Kubuntu on technical and usability fronts are, they must be years away from profitability. Can Shuttleworth alone keep it afloat until they turn the business side around?

    1. Re:The only major KDE distro? by datadriven · · Score: 5, Informative

      Slack still ships with KDE as main desktop, if you use X anyway.

    2. Re:The only major KDE distro? by c_fel · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's still Mandriva, Knoppix and surely some more. And don't forget that a lot of distributions are not KDE- or GNOME-centric

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  2. The user should not have to care by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm using Ubuntu Breezy with the GNOME desktop and I've installed all the kubuntu-desktop stuff as well.

    The major problem I can see is that the user should not even have to care whether a given app is GNOME, KDE or whatever. You set your fonts and colours in the GNOME control panel, then you start a KDE app and it looks like weird-arse shit. WTF?

    No serious open-source desktop these days can be all-GNOME or all-KDE; you need to make the mixture not affect the end user at all. They desperately need a unified look-and-feel control panel that will set this stuff consistently without the user having to care.

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  3. A common mistake by Trestop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Right, Qt is GPL/QPL so to develop against Qt you must license as GPL or buy a TrollTech license.

    But! kdelibs are LGPL!
    So if you are only using KDE interfaces, you may license as anything you want!

    I don't know for sure, but I think this is intentional - if you want to develop cross platform apps, then you buy a Qt license from TrollTech (Although I would argue that neither Qt nor GTK+ is right for the job - instead choose FLTK or Wx). If you want to strengthen the Linux desktop (specifically the KDE part of it), then you can license it however you like w/o paying anyone anything.

  4. Must-have KDE apps by billybob2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The real issue is who is going to pay for the next generation of KDE development if SuSE isn't going to pay.

    Mandrake, Kubuntu/Mark Shuttleworth, Trolltech seem realize the value of KDE's superior architecture, on which many must-have KDE apps have been built. These apps don't have any gnome equivalents that are nearly as useful and feature-rich:

    AmaroK music player -- Steve Jobs' nightmare, the single greatest threat to Itunes on the Free Software platform.

    K3b -- Best CD and DVD authoring program with intuitive wizards, on the fly transcoding between WAV, MP3, FLAC, and Ogg Vorbis, normalization of volume levels, CDDB, DVD Ripping and DivX/XviD encoding, Save/load projects, automatic hardware detection/calibration and much more.

    DigiKam -- The most feature-rich application for digital photo management.

    Wireless Assistant -- Most user-friendly app for connecting to wireless networks. Managed Networks Support, WEP Encryption Support, Per Network (AP) Configuration Profiles, Automatic (DHCP, both dhcpcd and dhclient) and manual configuration options, Connection status monitoring, etc

    KDE Education -- Educational (Science, Literature, Geography, etc) programs for children. Could play a big role in whether school districts decide to use Free Software in their classrooms.

    Konqueror File Manager -- Embeded image/PDF/music/video viewing (via KMPlayer) and a tree-view arrangement of the filesystem familiar to Windows users (Nautilus doesn't come anywhere close)

    KDE Control Center -- Centralized location for desktop control. Controls _all_ common aspects of the KDE applications: language, power settings, special effects, icon and window themes, shadows, shortcuts, printers, privacy, etc. This is what makes KDE so well integrated -- all KDE apps respect changes made here, so they all have the same feel. SUSE has even made YAST a module of the KDE control center so users can access distro-specific settings from here. Compare this to the dismembered approach Red Hat (and other gnome distros) have been forced to adopt in the absence of a centralized gnome control center. (ie. a bunch of individial programs named redhat-config-**** that nobody can ever remember)

    Seamless, transparent network file access on SMB, FTP, SSH and WebDav networks from _any_ KDE application.

    Kaffeine -- The most polished FOSS movie player.

    MythTV -- The most advanced analog and digital TV viewer/recorder in the Free Software world (built using QT).

    Baghira -- A native QT style that faithfully imitates OS X eyecandy, aimed at new users coming from the Mac world.

    Klik -- Gives non-expert access to bleeding edge versions of apps without requiring any compilation or permanent installation.

    KDE and QT also make up a technically superior platform for developers, drastically lowering the learning curve for programmers new to FOSS development. KDE apps can be built from the ground up using the best development tools in the Free Software world (which also happen to be built on QT/KDE):

    Kdevelop for syntax highlighting, application templates, and project organization.

    QT designer for GUI development

    Quanta -- Rich web development environment for PHP, CSS, DocBook, HTML, XML, etc with advanced con