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IBM And Sony Form Linux Alliance

An anonymous reader writes "CNN is reporting that IBM, Sony, and Philips are creating a Linux adoption group. Called the 'Open Invention Network', it is intended to protect vendors and customers from patent royalty fees while using OSS." From the article: "Patents owned by OIN will be available without payment of royalties to any company, institution or individual that agrees not to assert its patents against others who have signed a license with OIN, when using certain Linux-related software. Traditionally, patents have been pursued for two primary reasons -- to defend one's own intellectual property or for barter to trade in cross-licensing agreements to gain access to other companies' patents. OIN represents a new form of cross-licensing that its backers say could spur innovation. "

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  1. Makes sense by level_headed_midwest · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now Sony can make a Linux rootkit too!

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  2. A matter of trust... by harrkev · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This certainly seems like a good idea, but am I the only one that thinks that seeing Sony in this list is rather out of character, especially given Sony's recent actions?

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    1. Re:A matter of trust... by strider44 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Probably not. However you're forgetting how big a company Sony is. Just think of IBM - on one hand they are fighting against Microsoft through Linux and their servers and services, but on the other hand they are manufacturing chips for Microsoft's brand new console. They're all companies, not a single person. It's not personal, it's business. Noone involved in the rootkitting is also involved in this Linux alliance.

    2. Re:A matter of trust... by EulerX07 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hell, I'm sure the "Sony Consumer Electronics" groups has regular disagreements with the "Sony Music" group.

    3. Re:A matter of trust... by harrkev · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps you are right. In the eyes of the law, a corporation is a single entity. I guess that people (myself included) also tend to think of it as a single entity. Maybe I should think of it as having "multiple personality disorder." The only problem is that I like to spend my money with companies who support linux, and I like to not spend my money on companies who support DRM. *Harrkev's head explodes.*

      But seriously, I also wonder what the requirements for membership in this group is. This is a "if you don't sue me, then I won't sue you" club. But what if a corporation wants to join without holding any patents? They would get a lot out of joining, but not really have anything to contribute. Would they still be allowed to join?

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    4. Re:A matter of trust... by altoz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sure Sony employees are just as outraged as the rest of us are about the rootkit. Fact of the matter is that the entertainment moguls (music, tv, movies) are in a completely different division doing idiotic stuff. Think about it, if MIT had one professor that ran a criminal record on his students, there would be other professors on campus that would be outraged. Same thing here.

    5. Re:A matter of trust... by div_2n · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yet as a consumer I can only judge the company as a whole and not the individual divisions since I have no idea how deep the evil streak runs and don't want to chance that some other product or service is equally as nasty.

    6. Re:A matter of trust... by Jonny_eh · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ya, they probably have really tense cross-department picnics.

      I can just see the SCE guys going to eat the cake, and the Sony Music guys saying "You can't eat that until we say! It's copywritten!".

      Oh well, I guess the moral is that Sony Music doesn't want you to have a cake and eat it too.

    7. Re:A matter of trust... by vertinox · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps you are right. In the eyes of the law, a corporation is a single entity. I guess that people (myself included) also tend to think of it as a single entity.

      Corporations are not sentient beings.

      If they were, they'd be large 100 foot tall immortal beasts living off the blood of small children.

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  3. Potentially awesome by Ryvar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The idea of an anti-patent patent trust is as old as the hills, but to see this much corporate clout behind it was unthinkable not five years ago. It feels like there's been a sea-change and I like it. More important than helping IBM and Sony fight Microsoft, if this idea gained momentum it could seriously roll back a lot of the current technical stagnation on account of software/algorithm patents.

    Color me cautiously hopeful.

    --Ryv

  4. Re:Everione's invited :-) by wpiman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These three companies make their money in services and hardware-- ie. not software. I can't possibly imagine Microsoft joining given this. It would be like Microsoft and Oracle starting a group which would give out free hardware, and use the Open source community for free services (obviously hard to do). These hardware and service companies would want nothing to do with it.

  5. Sony is an Equitable Partner by Dareth · · Score: 4, Funny

    They will provide "Root Kits" for any operating system!

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  6. Re:cost of a license by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Software patents are not acceptable, these companies and others pushing for a stable ABI (binary drivers) are attempting to co-opt linux. To accept this patent pledge we would first have to accept that software patents are acceptable, they are not. If these companies are not prepared to mount legal challenges to patentability of software, this is at best an empty and worthless gesture, at worst an attempt to undermine copyright protection for software authors.

  7. Re:cost of a license by goldspider · · Score: 3, Funny

    My $699 Linux license protects me from things like GPL lawsuits, acts of God, and robot attacks. It sounds a bit steep at first, but SCO assures me it was money well spent!

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  8. Hooray for Sony! by Slashcrap · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oops, sorry. I seem to have mis-spelled "Fuck you Sony, you rootkit spreading scum suckers". The keys are right next to each other.

  9. Wait I'm confused.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Aren't we suppose to be hating Sony now?

    (Go ahead and mod redundant, just like you did the FIRST POST that made this joke)

  10. Re:Groupthink clarification requsted by bperkins · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
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    I think in this case Sony sees a threat from Microsoft, and wants to gang up as much as possible. For Sony, DRM and patents are largely orthogonal. DRM has to do with copyright and the enforcement mechanism is primarily the DMCA.

    I think it's worth noting that if Sony had to choose between ditching DRM and protection from death by patent litigation, it would choose the former. Content, especially music, just isn't as big a business as consumer electronics.

    Either way, you can still hate Sony if it suits you. It's a pretty big company, it's probably OK to like one division and hate the other.

    The hive mind has spoken.

  11. Sony has got multiple personality disorder by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Most obvious is that japanese sony != american sony. Secondly is that hardware sony != content sony.

    Content sony only cares about pushing its wares but so does hardware sony. Hardware sony does not want people to not buy their hardware because it is to crippled while content sony does not want people to use their hardware to duplicate their content.

    Then you got japan sony coming from a slightly different culture then the american "lets sue" sony.

    But what I think is at the heart of this is the Sony that does not want to be owned by Microsoft. While the internet tv might not have happened I am sure there are people at sony that would dearly love the idea of them producing the "next pc". It is the only possibly explanation for Linux on the playstation sold by sony itself. They can't make a single cent profit on it. So why do it if not for learning wether it can be done?

    Might it someday be possible to buy in the store a non-ms computer? Worse perhaps a computer that is not like today's pc's at all but far closer to say, oh a mobile phone?

    MS has really screwed over every single company it has dealt with and the IBM Sony's of this world would dearly like to see a future were MS can't dictate so many terms.

    It is basic economy. When your supplier controls you you are not in control. At the moment it is MS that control the PC and PC makers like sony don't like that.

    So it is not out of character at all. Sony is just trying to get maximum profit. MS being toned down a bit means that sony can better dictate the terms, the terms probably being "we want more cash".

    Simple really.

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