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Sony Music CD's Contain Mac DRM Software Too

brjndr writes "A MacInTouch poster has found that certain Sony CD's also contain a smaller extra partition for 'enhanced' content. Running one of the applications found within this partition installs kernel extensions containing DRM software by SunnComm. In Sony's defense you're told what is being installed within a EULA which pops up when the program is loaded. Thankfully we all read our EULAs completely."

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  1. Think different... by Space+cowboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    [See my journal entry for my previous comments on this]

    To summarise: it's impossible to protect against truly clueless users without severely inconveniencing everyone else, but Mac OS X at least lets you know something dodgy is going on (a request for administration rights, just to play a CD, say what ? No *other* CD's needed that!) I guess it helps to have gorms, though...

    THM: It's a difference in attitude. It *does* make a difference.

    Simon

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    1. Re:Think different... by Jezza · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is very true - very little Windows software can cope like this, now Windows Vista (aka Longhorn) will work like this by default, so I expect LOTS of software to fail for this reason alone. Hopefully once everything get updated for Vista we can run our XP boxes in this mode too (which will be much better.

      Someone was saying that you get so used to typing your admin password on OS X that you just do it as a reflex - that hasn't been my experience. This simple change represents a great improvement over Windows XP.

      In the case of the Sony DRM I think it quite likely that Mac OS X users will find the request for their admin password "odd" - and hopefully a significant number would refuse to give it.

      Of course some will as we all tend to trust "big names", maybe that's the real lesson here - Sony can be as evil/stupid as anyone else. And if you can't trust Sony, who can you trust?

  2. At least this means one good thing... by fitchmicah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a sign that Mac OS X has a large enough userbase for Sony to worry about Mac users stealing music.

  3. Re:Make a fortune by gcatullus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reasonable, yes, but legally workable not really, at least according to Sony. The sony eula says you must destroy any and all fair use copies of the music you possess, if you are no longer in possession of the actual cd. What a concept, your car gets robbed, you get cds stolen and then SONY makes you delete any copies you may have. I'd love to see it in court.

  4. McCarthyism doesn't sound so bad now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why not find the names of the individual programmers who coded these rootkits, and make sure they're unable to ever get a job ever again? It was perfectly reasonable to keep Communist sympathizers out of Hollywood and government when Senator McCarthy went on his crusade -- why not keep DRM sympathizers out of the programming industry? Treat them like shit, refuse to hire them anywhere, and make them unable to ever afford food and shelter ever again without humiliating welfare subsidies.

    Of course, criminals will always hire criminals; a thief will always have a chance at getting hired by the Mafia, so I don't expect this will completely work. Computer companies that have overgrown beyond their event horizon of personal responsibility such as Sony and Microsoft will always be a haven for crooks and guttersnipes. But every responsible company still around should outright refuse to hire anyone who's ever knowingly developed anything related to DRM; conduct background checks on every potential employee's employment history and slam the door in the face of any DRM sympathizer looking for a job.

  5. Re:Oh thank God... by tm2b · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ummm..."Ha ha, it doesn't affect us!" At least, none of us who don't type in the administrator password without understanding why we're doing it.

    Ha ha, only serious. Seriously, this isn't an "any computer" issue. This is an issue with the only "modern" OS that have been specifically engineered to run arbitrary binaries with privileges without challenging the user. It's isn't a matter of Mac OS X or Linux (or VMS or Solaris or SunOS or VM/CMS) being better, it's a matter of Windows being worse .

    This isn't even a matter of Windows' original design, as Dave Cutler's original security model was solid and included a good separation of privileges away from the desktop user, drawing on the last half a century of computing experience. This is a matter of Microsoft Management specifically and intentionally deciding to screw you. They will say it was necessary to make a desktop OS usable by novices - Mac OS X does give the lie to such horseshit (and that is the only place Mac OS X specifically figures in this topic).

    Yes, Sony deserves a lot of the blame. But Microsoft deserves just as much. You can start to "fight this stupidity" by not using Windows.

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  6. Sony just lost ~5000 euros by Ripper · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just renewed my living-room home-entertainment system for almost 5000 euros. The two finalists were a all Sony set vs. Panasonic + Harman Kardon + Infinity. Guess which finalist got my money after reading up on the Sony DRM scheme... Yep, I'm a happy Panasonic+HK+Infinty owner. Added a One-for-All remote and the functionality is pretty much the same as using a complete set from the same vendor.

    And this was definitely the last time I even consider Sony. Forget the new Playstation, if I have to choose from the two bad options M$ vs. Sony my money goes to M$ in this case.

    As big a fan as I am of the Van Zant brothers, I just can't think of buying the album after all this. Luckily it was available without DRM somewhere else. It's a shame for the artists though, they didn't get thei $0.50 or whatever they make per sold CD.

    I know my 5000 doesn't bankrupt Sony but if more of us start voting with our wallets maybe they will realize they can't keep on shafting customers every chance they get.

  7. At first, it seemed like a bad idea... by bennomatic · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ...but maybe Apple's right on the money with their "tamper-resistant software." Forget about hackers and pirates; I don't want $ony taking over my machine.

    It may sound paranoid, but once they start messing with the kernel, you really don't know what they're going to do...

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  8. Re:Memories... by cvdwl · · Score: 5, Interesting
    My original //e had some lame-ass program to "meet the machine", it had routines to deal with typists who cheated by using l's for ones s and o's for zeros...
    Cheated, hell! My first ... TYPEWRITER (yes, mechanical, yes, really, no power cord... no "correction paper", either) ... didn't have a "1" or "0" key, it expected you to use l and O. I remember being confused by this the very first time I tried to type on it.

    I'd really like to get my hands on one of those now. I sort of miss slapping it upside the carriage every time you were finishing a line. And a typo at the end of a page REALLY hurt.

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  9. Re:That's the last Sony CD I ever buy by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Citibank (I think) has a credit card mask generator. You can generate a credit card number for use online and then you tell the credit card company the spending and number of transations limits. You get a safe, one time use credit card number.

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  10. As result of this Sony rootkit fiasco... by bluelarva · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well.. Let see... I will NOT be buying the following:

    1. Sony music CD's
    2. Sony HD TV
    3. Sony Playstation 3 and games
    4. Sony Bluray DVD player
    5. Sony Ericson phones
    6. Sony VAIO laptop
    7. Sony DVD burner
    8. Sony digital camera
    9. Sony video recorder

    The only way Sony will regain my trust is if they were to:

    1. publically admit that what they did was wrong
    2. put a link on sony.com to a page explaining what exactly happened and provide software to uninstall the rootkit
    3. recall all CD's on the shelf containing rootkit DRM
    4. offer replacement CD's to all customers