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Truckers Choose Hydrogen Power

hipernoico writes to tell us Wired News is reporting that hundreds of semi trucks now on the roads are being partially powered by hydrogen. From the article: "These 18-wheelers make hydrogen as they go, eliminating the need for high-pressure, cryogenic storage tanks or hydrogen filling stations, which, by the way, don't yet exist. These truckers aren't just do-gooders. They like Canadian Hydrogen Energy's Hydrogen Fuel Injection, or HFI, system because it lets them save fuel, get more horsepower and, as a bonus, cause less pollution."

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  1. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by Skyfire · · Score: 5, Informative

    The trucks aren't using hydrogen as their main source of fuel. They are using hydrogen to enhance the combustion of the diesel.

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  2. Re:What, is the Hydrogen a catalyst? by nizo · · Score: 4, Informative

    This pdf file might be helpful (or search for it on google to see the html version).

  3. Not Alone by Altec+at+LM · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is not the first marketable apparatus using this technology. H2N-Gen has their very own unit that will cost about 4 grand, will fit under your car's hood, and will be on the market by March. There's been several articles on this (and a recent one in Popular Science, December issue). Here's one http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000373059415/

  4. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by pin_gween · · Score: 4, Informative

    I assume that their hydrogen source is probably mostly produced from electricity from coal burning plants.

    Umm, No...read your own quote: Electricity (from the alternator in the engine) is used to split the water into hydrogen and oxygen.

    The fact that water weighs in at over 8lbs is fairly moot -- gasoline weighs in closely, so adding a tank that holds a few gallons of water is not a major addition to trucking weight. Additionally, FEWER emissions. All in all, a good idea, if it is all that it's cracked up to be.

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  5. Re:What, is the Hydrogen a catalyst? by David+Frankenstein · · Score: 4, Informative

    quote...

    Through electrolysis, the Hydrogen Fuel Injection (HFI) kit generates hydrogen and oxygen, which are injected directly into the intake manifold. Published data show that hydrogen burns nearly one order of magnitude faster than petroleum fuels, thus approaching ideal thermodynamic cycle; and hydrogen has a shorter flame quench distance, allowing flames to travel closer to the cold zones, thus improving combustion. These hydrogen properties improve engine performance and emissions.

  6. Not Quite by Comatose51 · · Score: 4, Informative
    "hydrogen filling stations, which, by the way, don't yet exist. "

    Not quite. BMW has been researching and promoting hydrogen cars for some time now. They installed a hydrogen refilling station in Munich in '99(IIRC) and more are on the way, some in the US. The interesting thing about the BMW hydrogen car is that it can burn either hydrogen or gasoline so you can burn hydrogen when its available but not be hampered by the current dearth of hydrogen stations. As for the source of the hydrogen, Electricity generated from solar power is used to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. . The range on the 750H is only 400 km right now. The other trade-off of course is that there is still combustion so it's not as clean as fuel cell cars. Nonetheless, it's a start and not a bad way to transition us into a hydrogen economy.

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  7. Re:Hydrogen Wells? by MillionthMonkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    The trucks are NOT "partially powered by hydrogen" except in a meaningless technical sense. The trucks are generating small amounts of hydrogen that they have generated (somewhat inefficiently) from water and alternator electricity, using energy derived from diesel fuel as usual. They then inject some of that hydrogen back into the engine for a cleaner burn.

    Diesel engines produce soot (dirty filthy polycyclic aromatic compounds) which represents wasted energy and this is merely a way to cut down on the inefficiency represented by the unextracted energy leaving the exhaust. The mechanism by which adding hydrogen to the air-fuel mixture actually accomplishes this involves some complicated physical chemistry beyond the scope of the article- which goes into a misleading nonsequitur about how trucks might use hydrogen-powered fuel cells someday.

  8. Re:Does not compute by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 4, Informative
    The trick is that the hydrogen is not there to produce energy, but by burning hotter it improves the combustion of the diesel, so the efficiency improvements of the combustion out weigh the losses in the electrolysis system which is driven off the alternator.

    A very clever system, I hope whoever came up with it has a patent on it, I'm not a big fan of IP, but that sounds like a real invention.

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  9. Re:Additional supplement to the hydrogen? by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Informative

    > Virtually all race cars run on Methanol too.

    For "virtually all" read "Indy Cars"

    F1 cars run on unleaded petrol.
    Nascars run on 110 Octane gasolene
      etc. etc.

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