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FEC Rules Bloggers Are Journalists

Dotnaught writes "The Federal Election Commission today issued an advisory opinion that finds the Fired Up network of blogs qualifies for the 'press exemption' to federal campaign finance laws. The press exemption, as defined by Congress, is meant to assure 'the unfettered right of the newspapers, TV networks, and other media to cover and comment on political campaigns.' The full ruling is available at the FEC site. A noteworthy passage: '...an entity otherwise eligible for the press exception would not lose its eligibility merely because of a lack of objectivity...'"

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  1. Duh! by jmorris42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > "...an entity otherwise eligible for the press exception would not lose
    > its eligibility merely because of a lack of objectivity..."

    Well of course not. Otherwise they would have to close down CBS and Fox News right off the bat. And then come back and get CNN, ABC and NBC the next day. On the third day they would shutter the NY Times, the Washington Post and pull the plug on the EIB Network's sat feed.

    Of course by day four folks would show up in Washington with their 'Sporting Goods' and voice their 'opinion' about Campaign Finance Reform, reminding Congress that in the end the 1st Amendment, along with the rest are ultimately preserved by a willingness to exercise the 2nd Amendment. :)

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    1. Re:Duh! by Fallingcow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Years ago, there were tons of small independent papers publishing all over the country, most of which had a bias toward labor or business or any number of other things. The bias of each was pretty much out in the open.

      These mostly got bought up or run out of business, until now when only a relatively small number of much larger papers and media companies run everything.

      The bloggers are kind of like a return to that old model for print media in the U.S., I think, except way harder to buy out or run out of business, since most of them aren't even really in business. Biased indie papers are nothing new, and blogging is just the latest version of it. It was media then, it's media now.

    2. Re:Duh! by deanj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      O'Reilly not the news. He's a "personality" (if you can even call him that).

      The "fair and balanced" comes in during the real news broadcasts. They give both sides a chance to talk about the issue, which is a LOT more than ABC, NBC, or CBS does. Usually they just get one side to talk about what the other side is doing, and they don't give the other side a chance to answer any of the charges. That, frankly, is biased crap.

      People might not like the fact that the "other side" gets a chance to speak on those issues, but it's a helluva lot more than most television news and newspapers do these days.

      I completely disagree about the international news agencies too... they (both left and right) have their own axes to grind.

    3. Re:Duh! by penix1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You need to check out your facts a little bit. In the 1980s Regan did away with the "fairness doctrine" which required news to report both sides ironically saying, "it goes against investigative reporting". What you get now is one sided with most of the interviewees being from "think tanks" and special intrest groups like the conservative Heritage Foundation. This goes for Fox New just more than any of the others. Check out their next segment and note where the people are from to see what I mean.

      B.

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    4. Re:Duh! by Jobe_br · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly.

      I think when some people think of "Media", they think of NYT, USA Today, ABC News, CNN, and their locally circulated newspaper, news stations, etc.

      There's a lot more to media than just this. There are a great number of publications that are extremely biased, small indie newsletters, mini magazines and who knows what other formats. There are publications geared toward the military, toward eco-friendly folks, and everything up down and in-between.

      And what's more amazing, is that most libraries carry these for their surrounding communities. Check it out sometime ... you'll find much more than just the WSJ and your local rag.

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    5. Re:Duh! by tooba · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's a good reason why minority rights and dissent are so important in our country: its because the majority doesn't always know what's right.

      That being said; the fact is, unbalanced or not, FOX has the right to broadcast whatever message suits their purposes. It certainly isn't the government's job to dictate how politics are covered. Not that profit motive or the free market will dictate a plan of action that guarantees intelligent broadcasting or commendable journalism. Hell, in a counrty where Britney Spears and reality TV can dominate the airwaves, popular opinion and commercial support aren't worth all that much in the intellectual domain.

      The media cannot be counted on to provide us with an intelligent view of the world. That is on our own shoulders. Liberal, conservative... it doesn't matter. They have all got their morons and those that have a clue. Just learn to watch with doubt- all that takes is an ability to smell bullshit when its presented to you. Then, maybe, the media could really be held accountable.

      Tooba

  2. Why this is necessary by ReformedExCon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because some people think that there ought to be limits to Free Speech, it is required that government define exactly what types of Free Speech are really free and which ones ought not be so free.

    McCain/Feingold campaign finance laws, which limit the Freedom of Speech of anyone with a political opinion, forces us to define what types of speech should remain legal.

    It's sad and disappointing.

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    1. Re:Why this is necessary by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think the Founding Fathers ever intended the "one dollar, one vote" system that occurs when you don't have regulation of campaign finance.

      Do you?

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  3. Amendment I by Woldry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

    Freedom of speech applies to political speech. Campaign finance laws are blatantly unconstitutional. This ruling is offensive because it implies that only established and recognized "press" entities qualify -- and the government, whose interest is markedly not neutral, gets to decide who is and isn't "press".

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    1. Re:Amendment I by bluprint · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. I think so many people have some sort of weird, "left/right", "liberal/conservative" view now, nothing matters except what hurts the other side.

      This is about freedom. Fuck politics. We can say what we want. If that one fact is no longer true, then this is no longer the same America I thought I was growing up in.

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    2. Re:Amendment I by SQL+Error · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Congress shall make no law.

      The most beautiful five-word phrase in the English language.

  4. This is encouraging, but by lightyear4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This development is indeed encouraging; however, the need to define free speech explicitly through enumeration is troublesome. As it was intended, free speech should be free speech as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others. That may seem too nebulous a definition, but it's really quite cut and dry: say what you will so long as it does not deleteriously impact others. Why has such a simple and powerful idea become so diluted?

  5. Free speech good, but bloggers AREN'T journalists by Nerdposeur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the people trying to "censor" blogs do have a legitimate point: you can bet that everyone who is campaigning for something will set up blogs, pretending to be independant, that sing their praises. That's harder to do with "real" publications because they cost money to set up and run, and their ownership is public record.

    I guess this is just part of the price of free speech. I do wonder if there's a good interface for "moderating" blogs, so that, for example, if one is sponsored by Candidate X in a sneaky way, and someone finds out, it can appear beside the name of the blog.

    I'd also like to point out a fundamental difference between bloggers and journalists. I have worked at a newspaper, and spent all day calling people, attending government meetings, doing research and asking more questions before I wrote something. Bloggers tend to link to the work of real reporters, then offer comments, or worse, just repeat rumors as fact. At best, they are information scavengers, feeding on the facts hunted down by others.

    Because a newspaper has advertisers and subscribers, it has to protect its reputation as being truthful. A blogger has nothing at stake. A newspaper also expects to get sued and tries to have a "truth defense" ready - to cover their butts by being accurate. They might not always succeed, but they have reason to try. I don't know whether any bloggers have been sued for libel yet, but I bet some will be. If you're going to "publish" something, you really do need to check your facts, and that usually takes more time than a hobbyist has.

  6. Bias is OK by jmorris42 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > At least you started with Fox News...fair and balanced my ass.

    Of course they aren't balanced. Which, in a sort of paradox, makes them balanced since they now singlehandendly counterbalance the 'progressive' biases of the rest of the nets. Sort of a TV version of Limbaugh's infamous "I don't need equal time, I am equal time!".

    Personally I don't mind bias all that much as long as it is in the open and Fox does often admit that while they make an effort to present both sides, they do come at issues with a conservative viewpoint. Neither Bill O'Reilly or Maureen Dowd bother me since both are pretty open about their position advocacy. What pisses me off is when asshats like Dan Rather or Helen Thomas claim with a straight face to be impartial in their reporting when they are as biased as Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken.

    Or take the Sunday morning yak yak shows. I don't get Face the Nation over my local CBS station, but both NBC's Meet the Press and ABC's This Week program are hosted by former Democratic Party aparatchiks with no major experience in journalism prior to taking the helm at their respective high prestige posts? Harmless Coincidence? We are supposed to believe both are presenting a 'balanced' view of politics?

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  7. Re:Always the geek. Running the numbers... by Niten · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Washington Post has a bias toward the right? I'm not sure I can agree with that. I consider myself pretty allergic to any strong conservative bias; few things pain me more than sitting through the O'Reilly Factor. I've never considered the Washington Post to have any such bias. If they do, it's either too clever or too weak for me to pick up on.

    I would also argue that simply tallying up "left versus right" bias is useless with regards to determining the state of our mass media. By its very nature, political bias is anything but a black-and-white issue.

  8. Re:Oh, the dictators in power by bluprint · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm curious, how come you can be so obsessed by a private group deciding to pull something like that becuase of private reaction, but be (apparently) perfectly O.K. with the fact that the FEC can tell you what you can say?

    It's time to quit the petty left/right bullshit. We have more important matters to deal with, like simple freedoms we used to have. Let's deal with those important issues, then get back to our petty bickering.

    Thanks.

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  9. Re:Free speech good, bloggers ARE TOO journalists by redelm · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Please! The amount of truthfulness and accuracy in commercial newspapers is highly variable. Sometimes it's good, othertimes it _way_ off base. Fact checkers cannot cover what is omitted, and much bias is in the wilful omissions.

    I'd much rather deal with 'blog who make no pretense. I'll do my own fact checking rather than rely on unseen gnomes to do it to my satisfaction.

  10. Re:FEC madness.. by Woldry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As any GPL fan will tell you, it isn't about "freedom to", it is about "freedom from".

    "Freedom of speech", to my ears, sounds a lot more like "freedom TO speak" than "freedom FROM speaking", or even than "freedom FROM other people's speaking."

    Likewise, "freedom of the press" would seem to be a lot closer in my mind to "freedom TO run a press" then "freedom FROM those running the press".

    And given the (admittedly imperfect) freedom of opportunity in the U.S. (that's a freedom TO opportunity, not a freedom FROM opportunity), if you want to buy bigger ads than the opponent, then you are free to earn/beg/raise enough money to do so.

    Of course, if we did away with the artificially-created entities known as "corporations", and realized again that only individual citizens, not mythical on-paper aggregations of them, have rights, that would go a long way toward equalizing that freedom of opportunity, and would make a lot of the campaign finance laws unnecessary in the first place. But that's a whole nother kettle of fish.

    Furthermore, politicians should have their advertising budgets capped and paid for by the government.

    Speaking as a libertarian, I agree. Every single candidate, regardless of party affiliation, experience, competence, degree of insanity, or number of tinfoil hats, should be eligible to fill out a form and get a check (the exact same amount for every one of 'em) covering all possible campaign expenses. And the money to fund this should come out of the pockets of every person who ever spoke in favor of campaign finance reform in any way. Let them put their money where their mouths are.

    Me, I'll continue giving my (very limited) political donations to the candidates I support, and keep insisting that it's my absolute right to do so.

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  11. Dig Deeper by realgreendragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is about money.

    This is about money that the parties and candidates spend paying "bloggers" to write about how good they are.

    The issue here is not free speach. It has been spun. The issue here is if someone is being paid to write something in a blog, then they should have to make that clear on the blog. There is a difference between an opinion piece and propaganda.

    If 500 people all write in support of an issue and it turns out that they have been paid to all support that issue, it isn't really a grass roots support movement, is it?

    This boils back down to the same issue as the gov. paying "journalists" to create fake news reports about certain issues.

    I have no problem with parties and candidates paying people to write good things about them, I just want to know if what I am reading is someone's opinion or a campaign ad.

  12. Only if your malice can be proved by hagbard5235 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Effectively, libel is dead. If you, as a journalist, publish mean, false things about Bill Gates, a public figure, then you can only be found guilty of libel if it can be proved that you acted with 'actual malice'. See Sullivan v New York Times (1964). Historically, malice has been almost impossible to prove, and people have lost libel cases against parties who were proven to have published falsehoods against them, who were proven to have KNOWN those falshoods were false prior to publication, but by whom malice could not be proven. You are worrying for nothing, you can basically make any statements you would like about a public figure with impunity.

  13. Re:Always the geek. Running the numbers... by Wellspring · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I almost completely agree-- and I'm a conservative. I'd add that journalists are primarily concerned with communication and presentation. It takes artistry to produce a coherent report. They're not operational people by nature. Artists tend to be liberal.

    In an ideal, black body radiation sort of way, it's impossible to find a reporter who is completely without bias. And you wouldn't want to read him if you found him. Ultimately, journalism is partly about reporting and partly about synthesizing and interpreting events. And events have many interpretations.

    Good journalists are fair-minded. They're more concerned with what is true than who is right. They aren't in there to change your mind, just to let you in on what's happening in the world. They'll have a bias, but they know it, acknowledge it, and work extra hard to ensure that their coverage isn't tainted by it.

    Bad journalists follow the creed of Cargo Cult Science. That is: "I already know what's true, now let me go prove it." They may be right sometimes, but their process is tainted and you won't know when they're right. And, really, they don't either. They're in journalism because they want to change the world, and protect people from evil bad guys who tell lies. There are bad conservative journalists, and bad liberal ones, but until the rise of Fox, most journalists were liberal, so most bad ones were too.

    It's no accident that journalism scandals came up right as blogs were getting big. A rise of a massive citizen journalism, biased individually but usually not collectively, suddenly put the news empires on the spot. Liberals insist that blogs are primarily a liberal movement, and conservatives claim that it's mostly conservative. The truth is that you read the blogs you agree with, so you feel like your side is huge. We don't really know where the overall centroid is.

    Incidentally, I think that programmers are both artists and engineers-- which I think is why programmers still don't fall easily into a political category, even though we are all definitely on the same wave lengths... even when we disagree.