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Intel Begins Support for Debian
An anonymous reader writes "An Intel Software Architect announced on the Debian mailing list yesterday that Intel has begun supporting Intel devices on Debian sarge for their extensive reseller channel. This covers the D845, D865 and D915 chipsets and was done to meet customer demand.
They've posted drivers as well as the various distributions supported by the chip maker (Debian, Mandriva, Novell and Red Hat). Looks like the pure open source distributions are finally getting the attention of the big players!"
..and, umm, I wonder which flavor of vanilla will be supported..?
astrosmash:~# apt-cache search kernel-image | grep kernel-image-2. | wc -l
46
Excellent! This skews the reseller scene somewhat such that others will be required to follow to equalize. In following they will skew it even more against the laggards who will finally capitulate.
Huzzah!
Sam
blog.sam.liddicott.com
Open source distros shouldn't need to get the attention of the big players, the big players should make everything to a standard of sorts, so everybody can be 'certified' regardless.
But it's not a perfect world, after all.
I'll subscribe to Slashdot when I see a month without a dupe, a typo, or an article the "editors" didn't read.
Yeah but...Debtel does have quite as good of a ring to it....
$sig$
They support open source by providing closed source drivers for an open source platform, which you can only install after reading and agreeing to a EULA. It might just be me, but aren't those the EXACT THINGS that open source is meant to not have?
I tried to follow the link given in the summary, but it wanted a login password. Do these drivers come with source, or are they binary only?
as in, I paid too much money for this hardware, now I'm in debt 'ell.
Why support distributions when what is needed for that support is either actual drivers (open source), or technical information to allow kernel developers to write the drivers. Instead, this "support" should be specifically targeting "The Linux Kernel". Then supplementary support can be provided to retractively install those drivers in distributions containing older kernel versions that don't include the drivers. Genuine "Linux Support" would mean doing whatever is necessary so that a future kernel version will correctly function with the targeted hardware. Likewise, similar support should also be provided for all the BSDs (even if just supplying the info to let the developers create the necessary code).
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
still no wireless support from intel though.
hello left hand, i'd like ou to meet your right hand.
OK, maybe this is not exactly on topic, but why is it that Debian gets no respect on /. If there's an article on /. like "Ubuntu Dapper beta-1.0.652 now available for testing" or "Some guy in Australia evaluates ubuntu on his business desktop", it will get put into MAIN. If there is an article about the new graphic debian installer or Intel now supporting Debian with open source drivers, it only goes into the linux section.
/. posts that say "Hey, if you want to run kernel 1.4 in 2005, try Debian." Hello, try debian unstable. Postgresql 8.1 was in debian unstable 1 day after it was released recently. If you're doing development, a bit of instability is fine (and IMHO, unstable is often more stable than ubuntu's official releases). If you want to run a production server, debian stable is hard to beat.
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I am now working as a java developer. In the past I've done development , DBA work, and sysadmin work, and whenever I want to get a server working well (or work on some development), my first option is ALWAYS Debian. Sure, right now I'm stuck working on solaris because I have to work with some commercial, binary-apps that do not run on any linux distros. Maybe I will sometimes consider using centos or something like that if I need to work with software that is only supported for RHEL.
But if I have an option, I use Debian. I have a small group of FOSS-enthusiast developer friends. We sort-of met each other arbitrarily, and we subsequently found that we all use Debian. When my cousin in Poland (I'm in the USA) was trying out different *nix distros, he eventually also settled on Debian (before he found out that I use it too).
Commercial distros appeal to newbies with their graphical installers. Ubuntu appeals to newbies who are charmed by the latest gnome apps. Many developers and sysadmins, on the other hand, who have used various distros have discovered that Debian is incredible for getting work done. It has more packages than any distro (I mean, EVERY FOSS tool is in Debian and it just keeps getting better and better -- now parrot, several FOSS java vm's, mono, Postgresql 8.1, mysql 5... are in unstable). When you want to compile from source, building (and customizing) your own deb from a source deb is VERY easy. And when you don't have time to worry about building from source and want to get some software up and running in a hurry, apt and dpkg are AMAZING.
Show me another distro right now that will let me install postgresql 8.1, parrot, mysql 5, mono, and several different FOSS java tools from binary packages in less than 5 minutes. It pisses me off when I read
OK, gentoo is another great community distro and warrants respect for the hard work and quality that the community puts into it. But for me and many other people who truly love to use FOSS tools on every continent in the world in dozens of countries, whenever we consider trying out another distro for a while, we find that we're better off just using Debian.
Debian deserves more respect on
oh sweet debian has a working graphical installer now? cool, i ran debian for years and still think it is the best open source OS around, but i gave Gentoo a try on my AMD64 and since it took sooo long to build everything on it i figure now that ive got it all installed ill stick with it ;) Also gentoo seems to have more packages for more applications with better support for more architectures and a FANTASTIC support forum right on their main page.
But debian is clearly one of the best distros, just have a look at how many other distros out there have based off of it and charge you! :() weak..
I was very happy to note Intel released drivers for Linux. I use Linux desktop on Intel 865. I did not want to buy dual-core (Intel 945-based) because no drivers.
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BUT, I was very surprised and very much disappointed to see notes on Intel website.
(http://developer.intel.com/design/motherbd/cz/cz
For Windows:
Note: The Windows* OS device drivers listed have been evaluated on this Intel® Desktop board.
For Linux:
1. All BETA and Linux* information and software contained herein is provided "AS IS" to Intel customers. Intel Corporation disclaims all express or implied warranties and liabilities for the use of this document, the software...
Why such a discrimination? For Windows, fully tested, for Linux, eat as it is!!!!
Isn't it a shame for manufacturer like Intel to say we released drivers untested??? This is unbelievable and very very iresponsible.
We can forgive a poor open source programmer who develop a driver and say I don't have resources to test for all chipsets but it runs on my computer.
What's the execuse multi-billion dollar Intel has to say? No resources? Cannot afford to allocate at least one programmer to test them?
I kind of thought we had that one pegged. I'm lost. Come back to me later.