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Mozilla Firefox 1.5 RC3 Released
Jasper Bryant-Greene writes "It doesn't look like the official website has updated yet, but Firefox 1.5 RC3 has been just been released. MozillaZine has the scoop."
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Firefox is the best browser, i cant wait for the full release of 1.5
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Any news about when will the Mozilla Foundation release the final version? Hopefully, it will be around the first two weeks of December 2005.
I love FireFox as much as the next guy but we need to stop bragging about "100 million downloads !!!" when a new version is out every few weeks.
My firefox prompted me a few hours ago about an "important upgrade", which I did. But it didn't say what this upgrade was about, and therefore I don't know if I'm running RC3 or not. It would be nice to know what has been downloaded.
I love firefox.... and slashdot.... but good point, actually. "News for Nerds. Stuff that MATTERS." -- Does another RC matter? Not a whole heck of a lot. Tell me when Firefox 1.5 final is out.. Enough of the RC updates.
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I agree with you completely, but the firefox evangelists will cry if they don't get their weekly press. Sadly Firefox has become the darling child of the OSS movement because of it's successes. Those successes are largely due to the evangelists themselves, but also in no minor part to it being a vastly useful product. This separates itself from much of the OSS on the market today. Thats not to say that most OSS isn't useful, but not globally so.
Of course it's also truly sad that a web browser is the symbol for all this evangelism. I can't think of anything better, but then again does OSS really need a symbol?
It's just a browser folks. It's software and a product, like toilet paper and cheesy tasting crackers. Honestly? I'd like to see a frontpage article about Cheez-It's upgrading to a new cheezier flavor. I'd be on that like white on rice.
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And the truncating title text bug that arbitrarily drops information from websites still hasn't been fixed. It's now five years old! Hooray!
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https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537
I think Moz is a great project, but I use Opera because things like this are allowed to linger for um, half a decade, instead of being fixed.
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http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/200 5/11/17/15rc3-available/
Notice that RC will be the final version if there are no new bugs.
I have been running rc2, and it works well but it does have some freezing issues.
0 5/11/17/15rc3-available/ (The release notes blog):
From http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/20
* A recent regression that either crashes or breaks certain usages of innerHTML for dynamic applications. (315189/315999)
* A recent regression and most common RC2 crash (316025)
Hopefully, this will resolve most of my issues.
Remember, if you can't wait a day or so for the auto update: Help -> Check for Updates. (If you are running a RC of 1.5)
Kudos for the dev team.
I was in the middle of typing a posting and this thing popped up taking away focus.
Actually this is very common behaviour in most Windows (and to a certain extent OSX) apps. I don't know how many times I've been typing away in App A, when App B decides it needs to throw up some stupid dialog right when I'm pressing the key, leading to me wondering WTF I just said ok to. This is a general design flaw in many/most windowing systems today as they assume that the user tends not to multitask much, which may be true for many/most, but certainly not true for me.
Every time I use firefox and open a few tabs my vm size goes to 1GB. It's getting ridiculous how developers of firefox are ignoring to fix this problem. I hope they fixed this otherwise it gets uninstalled once IE 7 comes out Apart from tabbed browsing and few cool addons It's just not worth it in my opinion.
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I think this may be from the 1.6 nightly builds, but I've noticed when the update dialog pops up on its own (as opposed to when you make it come up via Help-->Check For Updates), the OK has a ~3 second countdown before it becomes enabled, the same way unsigned extentions work. Should prevent acidental action in the future, though the anoyence factor is still there.
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That drives me even more insane than usual. There is absolutely nothing like cancelling a long download or initiating a time-consuming update, or hell, REBOOTING THE FUCKING SYSTEM, because of that.
* Actually, I think TweakUI might do just that. I may even have it installed with that option set on my Windows box. It's just a bit too long in the tooth to play the latest games, so I haven't used it lately.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
It is serious. I have the same issues, up to 1.5 rc2 and the 1.0.x series.
I just upgraded tp rc3 but its too early to tell if that was fixed.
The parent should be modded up - this is a LONGSTANDING issue that has not gotten any attention.
I have 1GB of RAM (FF usually peaks at about 160MB for me before I restart it) so I dont care that much, but I know lots of users on lo-mem systems who are highly annoyed by this behavior and switched to Opera. I think this kind of thing should be a high priority critical/major bug and receive attention ASAP.
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(Slightly veering away from the topic) Mobile phones also annoy me in this regard. If I'm typing a message, browing a menu, or doing something else on my phone and someone calls, the phone switches straight into answering mode, in which the button I was just about to press has a completely different function. It's then a matter of complete chance whether I answer or reject the call, or send it to voice mail.
This problem could easily be solved: when the phone changes modes due to an event not initiated by the user, disable the buttons for a couple of seconds to allow the user to react to the change of state. Do any phones do this? I've not seen one that does.
If your comment title says 'Re: Foo', I'm not likely to read it.
MS uses ActiveX scripting objects to support additional languages, so doing it the MS way would require blanket support for ActiveX. That actually wouldn't be difficult to do in FF for Windows, but it leaves FF out in the cold on every other platform. It also sets a really bad precedent.
This could also be supported through the plugin architecture, but that puts us back in the 90's, where sites commonly required proprietary binary plugins or ActiveX controls. We already know that's a developmental dead end and a security nightmare. The current JavaScript architecture however, is an open ECMA spec that is directly addressed in the W3C standards. The presense of and adherence to these standards is one one the major factors contributing to the current explosion of new web technologies. I agree that AJAX is a silly buzzword, but at least it's keeping browser and web developers focused on standards support and interoperability.
I do think there is still a vacuum for a language Nuetral VM with a strong security sandbox that can hook into the DOM. Java applets should have filled this niche, but Sun repeatedly botched the delivery. MS .NET client web controls are another option, and Mono can provide support on non-MS platforms. Unfortunately these don't really seem to be going anywhere. I'd really like to see something in this arena catch on, but interoperability and security are essential for that to happen. And blind scripting interfaces won't provide that.
Now, language independence for extensions and internal development is a different issue. If you had done a little research you would see that Mozilla has had Python support for years, but it's not in the release versions. A little more research would probably land you at the Gecko roadmap where you'd find some info on the language neutral DOM interface in Gecko 1.9. Poking a little further would probably lead you to XULRunner. At that point I hope you will see that the intent of the development is quite intelligent and open. The fact is that it just takes time to get there and there are lot of factors to consider.
P.S. - I'd also suggest taking a closer look at JavaScript before calling it a brain-dead language. It's far from perfect, but certainly more intelligible and maintainable than Perl when used properly. And for it's target environment it actually works quite well.
Yes, yes I do come here for the commentary. Most of the time it is very good if you set your preferences right. Do you get goofballs, sure, show me a site where you don't. Frankly, it's people like you who lower the bar. Another whiner who instead of taking his/her show on the road to a site more suitable to you sits here and cries.
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It is subjective to be sure, and it has to do with reading comments from people who think, not just react (often with idiocy). Along those lines my subjectivity excludes comments like yours from the "good" pile.
Mind, this often comes from AC category. Most of whom have good reason for not identifying themselves.
I don't think this is completely unacceptable. You have to install it as root/admin to begin with, so just imagine that running Firefox one time as root/admin is simply the last step in the installation process.
Having said that, I can't imagine it being too hard for the installer to initialize the installation without manually having to run Firefox. Why don't they?