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Apache Comes With Too Much Community Overhead?

Posted by Zonk on from the many-hands-make-light-work dept.

drizzle writes "There's an interesting story on the Apache Marketing blog about whether or not Apache projects come with too much overhead, especially compared with other services or a roll-your-own approach. The article states, 'It's true that compared with SourceForge, Apache has a more rigorous management structure. The ASF has formalized processes and procedures that we believe represent best practices governance. All new projects must pass through an incubation period to ensure that all of the project's members have internalized these processes. However, each project's leadership has a tremendous amount of discretion in managing within this framework.' There is also a follow up article written by one of the httpd developers about 'What Apache brings to the table.' The article cites community, experience, legal framework, diversity, brand strength, and networking as reasons why developers and companies should consider bringing their projects over to Apache."

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  1. Don't bet your business on OSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Don't build your business on open source, unless you want to rely on the good will of others.

    Did you ever stop to think, that as a business owner, OSS could be scarey on the desktop?

    You are making your company dependent on the GOOD WILL of others.

    If you buy from a business, at least you know the greedy bastards will want to make money, and keep updating and have a growing concern.

    Sure, you know that linux works. BUT a business owner does not. IT IS NOT IN HIS/HER BELIEF system to think people just do stuff for free.

    After all, they sure as hell are going to charge others, to make a profit.

    So, after several months of trying to dual-boot Linux (Ubuntu 5.10) I finally give up. I think that it's a fine project, but there are a few areas where it fails to deliver.

    Specifically:

    - why is it so darn hard to install anything ? I have to use Alien on most of the downloaded packages, and even then it's anybody's guess whether the software would install at all.

    - why is GRUB losing my Windows XP from menu.lst after each update ? Every damn time I have to manually edit menu.lst and hope that it would
    work.

    - why is multimedia (esp. DVD) so goddamn unreliable ?

    - why is the file manager (at least the one that comes preinstalled) so darn useless ? Why can't I do basic file operations without invoking two different programs and a terminal window ?

    Don't get me wrong, I _do_ think that Linux is a great project, but it
    does have its share of problems. So does Windows, of course, but it's
    at least user friendly, intuitive and consistent. The "Public" OS like
    Linux should be more intuitive, not less.

    THIS, is LINUX.

    THIS is YOUR support structure when you have troubles with Linux, and you
    will.

    See the try XYZ distribution?

    See the accusations of being stupid?

    See the sour grapes (this mouse sucks, when every review of this mouse is +)

    See anything factual?

    I don't......

    In fact I see a collection of rabid zealots trying to defend their
    miserable OS.

    Look, the point is the mouse does not, cannot and will not work with Linux
    and if it can be MADE to function with Linux most people will give up LONG
    before they get it working and this goes for MOST new hardware and Linux.

    Most hardware is obsolete by the time Linux supports it.

    However it all functions perfectly under Windows and Mac OSX.

    Maybe that is why they are professional operating systems and Linux is a
    wanabee clone of Unix?

    My advice?

    If you want to use advanced hardware to it's fullest, don't look at Linux
    because it is terrible at this.

  2. Taco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If you miss the love train, I won't feel sorry for you.

  3. Maybe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ok. maybe there is something wrong with the apache development process. I don't care.

    Apache works great, and I have never had any difficulties using it or any of its modules. As a web server, it has done a great job, and been consistently secure and effective, so I will continue to use it, even given the mysterious flaws in its dev process that may or may not exist.

  4. Well, it should read: by HeliumHigh · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "Apache Comes With Too Much of a Color Overdose?"
    Hoowwllleeeeeyyyy crap. I thought Rob didn't have an 'eye' for color _before_ I saw the Apache page.

    Seriously. Purple. Purple AND Yellow. Eugh!!

  5. People should use Scrinchy instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Apache has become rather bloated , and its
    community is a part of that bloat.

    A smaller, simpler server is in order, such as Scrinchy.
                      http://scrinchy.org/

    Or, look at the numerous other small servers, here:
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_web_servers