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Hayabusa Probe Fails Landing Attempt

Posted by Zonk on from the so-close dept.

wschalle writes "Yesterday, at 3:46 PM EST the probe successfully dropped a small object onto the asteroid as a touchdown target. JAXA then apparently lost control of the probe for 3 hours. The probe went to an auto-pilot mode during the communications failure, collecting data about its flight and saving it for later transmission. The probe's exact location is unknown, but it is estimated to be between 10 and 100 kilometers from the asteroid at this time. The mission has been troubled by repeated failures, including the loss of a small robotic lander, and a gyroscope failure that was later repaired."

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  1. I hate to be harsh to the Japanese/JAXA, but... by TrevorB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What is the failure rate of Japanese science spacecraft that leave LEO? If memory serves, it seems somewhat high.

    (goes off to check for himself...)

    Looks like there's not enough data to say. Good luck in their future endeavours...

    1. Re:I hate to be harsh to the Japanese/JAXA, but... by richdun · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As someone who has worked in/around Japanese space hardware (the JEM intended for ISS), I can say that JAXA knows how to build a great spacecraft, maybe even better, cleaner, and with more emphasis on absolute accuracy than some American spacecraft. Like parent said, this was their first time doing a lot of these things, so I'm sure they'll learn plenty from this and get it right the next time.

  2. Re:I think that 'care factor = 0'.... by Liam+Slider · · Score: 3, Interesting
    George W. Bush said he wants us to go to the Moon again. I haven't heard anything about science in his statement on the topic; merely flag-waving.
    Not flag waving. Also not quite pure science. The main interest in the current US administration in going to the Moon is in aquiring important resources and the ability to use said resources. We're going there to do what everyone else keeps claiming we Americans do best....exploitation. Not some silly flag planting and nationalistic bullshit. Good for us I say.
  3. Perspective by everphilski · · Score: 2, Interesting

    10-100 km is dead on at a range of 288,923,070km... its a matter of perspective. IE: if I shot a bullet at a target and I was off by 1km, i was way off, but if I was off by 1mm I was close. Same thing here, but the scale shifts to a much larger one.

    -everphilski-

  4. Re:It's Rocket Science by cyclone96 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It actually can be legally very difficult to share information with foreign entities about how to fly things in space (even friendly ones). Under American law, a lot of space technology is considered "defense articles" and fall under the jurisdiction of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) laws.

    Legally, JPL (or an engineer working for them) would need to make sure that they were not violating ITAR (i.e., get the lawyers involved) or get an exception made (which is NOT easy). This usually requires some sort of official collaboration that is in place before the mission begins.

    For example, this exists to a limited extent on the International Space Station. I work for NASA on ISS as a federal employee. I have a specific exemption such that I can share information with the European Space Agency on how to design/fly a resupply vehicle to ISS. Some of my contractors do not have this exemption. It's actually a huge pain to work around, and the contractors are extremely protective of their interests (as they ought to be, Hughes was fined an enormous amount of money when they helped the Chinese troubleshoot a problem in the Long March rocket). In the worst case, you can in fact end up in jail for violating ITAR laws.

    ITAR has been the subject of a great deal of debate. On one hand, space technology is a keystone of the defense of the United States and protecting it legally sounds like a good idea. On the other hand, ITAR laws have caused many satellite buyers to purchase non-American hardware, which hurts the industry and stifles the very innovation in space technology that gives the US such an upper hand.

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  5. Re:I think that 'care factor = 0'.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    A lack of national identity doesn't seem to help France these days, for instance.

    You managed to pick one of the more nationalist and protectionist European countries. Try one of the Nordic countries instead: Finland, Sweden, Denmark. Members of the EU, considered to be the best countries in the world to live in (check it) - and where the residents are the happiest.

    Very little patriotism. We've evolved and realised that we're all living on the same Earth anyway.

    You'll get there. Maybe.