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Paris Accelerates Move to Open Source

* * Beatles-Beatles writes to tell us that the city of Paris is moving to open-source software a little faster than originally intended. As a part of the strategy to 'reduce its dependence on suppliers' they anticipate replacing both server and desktop applications with free and open-source software. From the article: "Earlier this year, volunteers among the city's 46,000 staff were invited to download and install open-source software to their desktops, including the Firefox browser and the Open Office.org productivity suite. Now, the city is planning to migrate all the users of one city department or all of those in one of the city's 20 districts, not just the volunteers, to test a larger migration. The city has 17,000 workstations, up from 12,000 in 2001"

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  1. Nothing new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Paris went open source since her famous video went to the internet.

    Oh, wait...

    1. Re:Nothing new... by g2devi · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Paris went open source since her famous video went to the internet.

      I think you're confusing the licensing. Paris may be exposed, but you can't modify her.

      Basically, she's under a "shared" source license.

  2. Good for her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That should keep her Sidekick from getting hacked again.

  3. hmm by gcnaddict · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Paris Accelerates Move to Open Source"

    by distributing 100 dollar laptops with Red Hat Linux to every rioting teen

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  4. [grin] by Space+cowboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Never mind TFA, this is just payback time for the 'freedom fries' jibes... None of your nasty closed-source software - we will 'ave the free(dom) software instead!

    Oh, and I spit in your general direction!

    Simon :-)

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    1. Re:[grin] by Alex+P+Keaton+in+da · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hmmm- learn your WWII history-
      Here are some book to get you started. I am not a big francophile, but nor am I a France hater. But the Poles played a big part in liberating Paris.
      http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullvie w/3DRV4RIE2IBVW/104-1606606-3940704?_encoding=UTF8

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    2. Re:[grin] by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Informative

      Of course, the whole "french fries" fiasco was even funnier considering that french fries aren't even named after France - it's the way they're prepared that gave them their name, and the word just happens to be the same in (contemporary?) English.

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    3. Re:[grin] by PhotoBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Funnier still is that the UK and US governments deliberately mis-quoted Chirac, they claimed Chirac had promised to block any vote for war in the UN. What Chirac actually said was that he would not vote for war unless the weapons inspectors were allowed to complete their inspection and confirmed the presences of WMDs. Which is quite reasonable if you ask me...

      But that didn't stop Bush & Co from demonising the French and starting a nationwide backlash against them just to prevent their reasonable criticism from being heard. I don't have any great love for the French but we should at least criticise them for something they did actually do.

    4. Re:[grin] by boule75 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thank you to point out that dishonnest misquoting.

      But you ought to point out that the bias in the translation was setted up from second one: The Associated Press _in French_ misquoted Chirac and was translated that way. Tony Blair then used a somewhat-more-distorted-again quote in the Commons in his great discourse to justify this war before this temple of Democracy.

      In the US it became something like "we must attack Saddam because he must be a real ennemy for the Frogs to defend him". Hum... Indeed, I am too pretentious of a frog, sorry: France was just bashed to provide a convenient red-herring and to distract the crowds from the already too many lies, distortions and so on that were already used at that time.

      To be honest, I was working in the axis of Paris main military airport at that time (Villacoublay), and it is certainly true that French diplomacy used many planes to convince many countries not to support the war at that time. Maybe does this explains why the US and the UK warmongers were so angry. The point is and will remain, to quote and translate Chirac correctly, that this region (the Persian Gulf) was not needing another war at that time.

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    5. Re:[grin] by speculatrix · · Score: 4, Informative
      the fact that when troops arrived in Iraq they found proof that the Iraqi gov't owed huge sums of money to the French and Russian gov'ts may have played just a tiny part in their refusal to go to war?

      now, of course, the debt is cancelled :-)

    6. Re:[grin] by lakiolen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The proper term is "Frenched Fries (notice the ed)". Refering to the way that the potatoes are cut, specifically cut into long thin strips. So the potatoes were frenched then fried, hence, frenched fries. Then throughout the years, english speakers (British, American, Australian, etc.) being as lazy as they are, dropped a syllable and they became french fries.

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  5. Actually they had to switch because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    the rioters burned all the Windows licenses.

  6. Poor kiddies by Dekortage · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the article: The city is also responsible for IT matters in its primary and middle schools. There, it has installed Open Office on 2,150 computers, and plans to bring the total to 3,500 by the end of March, it said. French high schools are run directly by central government.

    B-b-b-but those poor kids won't learn how to use Microsoft Windows! How will they ever succeed in the real world?!

    (This is sarcasm, folks, regarding a commonly-cited reason for American school systems to standardize on Microsoft Windows.)

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  7. Submitter is a link spammer, does /. care? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm recycling a comment from another AC in another Scuttlemonkey/**Beatles-Beatles post. This guy's getting worse than Roland Picklepail:

    Am I the only person who has noticed the numerous stories that get posted by *--Beatles-Beatles? Am I also the only person who has noticed that the link used in is name is a constantly changing URL (depending on the story) with pointers to various scammy sites? Is it not obvious what he's doing? He's using the awesome PageRank of slashdot do promote his sites based on searches that have the word Beatles in them.

    It's a small price to pay for free advertising. Find a story, summarize it in 5 minutes, post to slashdot, and get a pagerank boost that advertisers would pay hundreds (or maybe thousands) for. (Text links on high-ranking sites is big business - just ask oreilly).

    Slashdot should at least put a ref=nofollow in the links to submitters (or better yet, only link the submitter's name to his/her user page).


    In closing, a quick bit of WHOIS shows that all the sites linked by **B-B are registered to Carl Fogle. Carl, cut this crap out.

  8. Re:Freedom Fries were appropriately named. by Total_Wimp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are really going to try to Karma Whore with likening it to real war where people are getting killed?

    They wouldn't be if we had stopped to listened to the French. Hey, here's a bright idea, why don't we actually have a dialogue with our allies instead of pouring their wine down our gutters when they dare to disagree? It's just possible they may have a good point of two.

    TW

  9. The reason by mcgroarty · · Score: 5, Funny
    The reason France is so excited by open source:

    Wait for it...

    Wait...

    It runs faster.

  10. Re:liberté, eqalité, fraternité by xutopia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is that modded to insightful?

    France does not hate America and doesn't really care about the anglicization of the French language. Only a few really vocal conservatives care about anglicization and they go "shopping" and "park" their cars next to the "building".

    Also your comment about a French version of Windows being poorly translated is false. It is very easy to have a completely French computer if all you install is French versions of the software you want. Mix and match your software and you could see Korean and Elbonian on your computer.

    Please stop with that fallacy about France hating America. The only thing France hates about America is now at record lows in approval ratings. Seems you have more in common with the French than you might expect.

  11. France is evil by SebNukem · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah! Another post related to France. I can't wait for the flow of rioting cheese eating surrender monkey hate posts to follow. Boycott France, United we stand and God bless america.

    The French Scapegoat http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/10/19/193648/40

    (Score 5: Offtopic.)

  12. Re:liberté, eqalité, fraternité by Alarash · · Score: 3, Informative
    Liberty, equality, brotherhood. The tagline for the French republic. So they have to use free software , or they'd be breaking their ideals. Like "God bless America and the separation of church and state". I'm suprised the French don't use more free software, given their hate for America and the anglofication of their language, of which computers are a big cause.

    "Given their hate for America" ? Duh? France doesn't "hate" America any more than any country in the world, and probably like America more than most countries in the world. As for the "anglofication" of the language, well the Elders try to prevent it, but most of the youth use a lot of english words (like "cool", "joystick", "chat"), and a lot of english words are also commonly used ("parking", "joystick", "week-end", etc...). Many efforts are made to keep the french language and culture alive though. And I think it's great because the french culture is good (a lot of renowned book authors or poets for instance). Not "the best culture in the world", because no such thing exists, but definitively a great one.

    I used a French version of windows ocne. Only the very front was translated, any error messages, anything practically not visible at first view was still in English.

    I use a French Windows everyday, and basically everything is translated, except maybe the Blue Screen Of Death. I think what you saw could be third-parties software error messages not translated. Microsoft actually did a great job (aaar! don't mod me down!) translating their OS's to French (I don't know for other languages).

    And thank the French language for having separate words gratuit and libre, to distringuish the meanings of free. No excuse for the open source buzzword coerupting ouyr message there.

    Just for the people who don't know: gratuit means free (as in beer), libre means free (as in open source and freedom). So Firefox is gratuit and libre.

  13. Not only that by HawkingMattress · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My sister in law is student in "teacher's school" (no idea how you call that in english) in france.
    She'll be a teacher in primary school next year. They have computer courses to be able to teach children how to use a word processor, web browser or graphic editor. What's interesting is that they learn everything on free software, are given a cd full of OSS (for Windows), and encouraged to distribute it around them.
    They're told not to use commercial software with children, simply because their parents are not necessary wealthy enough to pay for the stuff at home so it would create ineqalities among the children. Very good idea if you ask me. Now if they could make a program to build very cheap computers and give one to each child it would be even better. But that's a start.

  14. Re:Employees don't see cost savings by swv3752 · · Score: 4, Informative

    PDF let anyone see something as it is meant to be printed. On other platforms that do not use Adobe's Acrobat Reader, the pdf viewers are pretty lean.

    For the niche that PDF fills, nothing else works as well. Postscript (which PDF is just a variant) is even larger, and other options such as DVI are not well supported.

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  15. Re:One thing the article doesn't cover.... by corwin2 · · Score: 3, Informative

    This is by far not the biggest migration to openSource in France, actually, the only reason why you see it in Slashdot is because it mentions "paris", it doens't even make the subtitles of French opensource portals. The whole French administration is slowly turning to opensource, currently for instance the Gendarmerie (police) is updating all their 40.000 PCs to OOo + Firefox/Thunderbird, the Tax administration announced last week that they are currently deploying Oo on their 80.000 Pcs and have already registered an immediate 29Million benefit because of it (2006 licence fees), the Police Nationale (the other Police administration besides Gendarmerie) has been using Oo for 2 years already etc. An official from Gendarmerie explained that leaving MSoffice for OpenOffice had an immediate benefit beside the very cost of the licences, they were able to disolve a whole department with several people paid only to make sure that the thousands of Gendarmerie buildings in France (metropolitan and abroad) were using legally licenced MSoffice suites ! Cops were paid to make sure that the licences were all paid instead of working on the street to arrest thieves...

  16. Re:Freedom Fries were appropriately named. by Total_Wimp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Listening to someones does not mean agreeing with them. This is a common misconception of partisans everywhere.

    I would have been quite happy with honest disagreement rather than demonizing the dissenter.

    I know I'm way off topic here, but many of the biggest problems of this administration can be linked directly with building a climate where only yes-men are listened to. If you allow honest dissent then you get to see a much clearer picture of how things look, you gain advanced notice when things aren't going so well and you gain valuable insight into the flaws of your plan. If you don't listen to honest dissent then you voluntarily put blinders on, people become afraid to tell you about problems and you gain the false impression that your plan is perfect, even though it would be much better if you just tweaked a few things.

    Even if you believe that the Iraq war was a good idea, which I do not, certainly you can see how doing a few things differently might have helped. Some people told Bush to take more troops. Some people gave Bush advice that more resources were necessary to rebuild Iraq when the war was done. Some people told Bush that we would face guerilla fighters after the war who would refuse to surrender. If Bush had listened to this dissent then he may have still prosecuted the war, but he would have done a better job of it. Less people would be dead, Iraq would be more stable and we'd be that much closer to bringing everyone home. Pouring out wine and renaming fries helped ensure that these dissenting views were marginalized and ignored. Frankly, it helped ensure in my mind that our president does not have the capacity to lead wisely.

    TW

  17. Misreading by Joe+Random · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one who originally read the title as "Particle Accelerators Move to Open Source" and was preparing a "Beowolf cluster of strangelets" reply before realizing the truth?

  18. Re:Freedom Fries were appropriately named. by kesuki · · Score: 4, Funny

    You are really going to try to Karma Whore

    yeah Damn that Anonymous Coward, such a blatent karma whore there is hardly a single discussion where he hasn't got at least 5 or 6 +5 modded comments.