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CCTV Network Tracks Getaway Car
An anonymous reader writes "The BBC is reporting that a 'pioneering number plate recognition system in Bradford played a vital role in the arrests of six suspects' after the murder of a Policewoman - within minutes of Friday's shootings, police were using the system to track the suspected getaway car." From the article: "When a car is entered on the system it will 'ping' whenever it passes one of our cameras, which makes it a lot easier to track than waiting for a patrol car to spot it."
Oh ... the criminals still get firearms anyway while the law abiding citizens are victims of criminals and an oppressive government. No wonder the IRA fought for their freedom.
No ... because 12 out of the last 13 people hung later turned out to be innocent.
A good portion of the people murdered in Britian have been murdered by police: google "table leg" or "Menezes". I believe in the USA 75% of police shot are either shot with their own gun or by another policeman, so arming the police is not the answer either.
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Having a plate that's hidden, out of place, or looks funny is primary cause for getting pulled over. Such schemes are likely to backfire by attracting police attention.
Photoblocker. It shines up your plate so much that it doesn't appear in pictures. It looks all washes out to cameras.
These posters were all over London when I was there a couple of years ago. No joke.
Just wait until someone commits a crime USING this system.
Its a lot easier to rob a bank and flee the country when the police all go after your "Getaway Car" in London while you take the train to Calais.
It's also a lot easier to find those pesky activists that don't like cameras everywhere.
Or round up undesirables for imprisonment.
Or single out your rival.
Or stalk your ex.
Or find a diplomat's motorcade.
your statistics are even more informative when converted to per-capita rates (the uk rate is over 100 times smaller, per capita, than the us rate). that said, i'd be more curious to see how the statistics break down based on geographic and demographic criteria --- i suspect that there's a very small portion of the us population which accounts for an overwhelming majority of the gun related incidents. factoring that portion out, the us and uk end up being on much more even ground. of course, this is pure speculation since i haven't actually looked at the relevant data.
I can't resist. They really tracked these boneheads for 211 miles before stopping them? Who's to say that the people in the car when they finally stopped were the people who were in the car when the crime happened? How about this for a scenario?
1: Commit crime
2: Drive to least favorite relative's house
2: Loan car to (for me anyway) sister-in-law, who borrows everything & returns nothing, for vacation trip
3: Laugh for a very long time while she tries to prove she's innocent.
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Queen B
HDGary secures my bank
All this will do is create a big black market for fake plates.
If you are going to commit a crime, make sure you pick up a 10-pack of fake plates and switch them out randomly during your arrival and your getaway. Even better if the fakes use valid numbers off other vehicles in the same vicinity giving the coppers two nearby "pings" to choose from. They don't even have to be high-quality fakes, just enough to fool the cameras and anyone else looking at them from a distance.
Civilization can only exist with three contstant factors... Laws, taxes, and police to enforce the first two. All "states" are police states. Try not to watch the movie Ney York to many times.
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While you have a point regarding making a per capita comparison, I feel your comment about the murder rate being linked to a "very small portion of the US population" is beyond the pale. Be honest, "very small portion" is just a euphemism for "poor people who are mostly not Caucasian." I'm sorry, you don't get to ignore minorities, or people of lower socioeconomic status, when computing statistics at a national level. Just because they aren't part of your community doesn't mean they don't count. Part of the reason that America has a violence problem is that people like you won't face up to the fact that America has a violence problem. "The first step is admission", and all that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-step_program.
Numerous methods of speed camera avoidance have been tested: hairspray, cling film (PVC film), refraction grid plate covers, etc. Absolutely none of them work.
However, my dad did come up with a couple of really good ideas to counter them. As the use of radar jammers (as opposed to detectors) is illegal, you need to disrupt the photo process. The cameras that use white flashes would be easiest to disrupt. Mount a photographic slave flash trigger above the numberplate, connected and adjacent to two fast-charging flash guns. Speed camera flashes, slave trigger fires and the two numberplate flash guns go off. Result: one completely over-exposed photo with the number plate hopefully obscured by a white smear.
For the infra-red cameras, drill a few holes at random in the plate and mount a number of high-intensity infra-red LEDs in the holes. Not sure how effective this would be, but it would certainly make life a bit more difficult for the people looking at the pics.
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"Only in places where seat belt use is a primary crime."
Sure, but they can use virtually ANY excuse to pull you over if they see/think that you don't have it on. Oops, that car weaved a little to the left, better pull them over type of thing. The difference between a primary/seconday crime is really how convenient it is for the police to enforce it (or how much of a cover story they need...)
In other words, the difference between primary and secondary traffic infractions is rather meaningless. About as useful as the words "probable cause" related to traffic searches-if they need it or want it, they'll get it. It may bite them in the rear end later after you spend lots of money on a lawyer of course.....
Automated camera systems to track the movements of every car in the country and then keep that on a permanent record are VERY bad
You are anthropomorphizing the data (I refuse to make the obvious joke). The data itself is not bad or good. The data is just data, another tool.
What is bad or good is the procedures by which this data is accessed, the uses to which it is put.
The real question is - is this tool too powerful to exist? I do not think so as long as there is oversight in it's use, because it can do a lot of real good - as in the case of the killers being caught, or (potentially) a vast reduction in stolen cars.
People like to argue that the genie is out of the bottle in regards to filesharing. Well, the genie of pervasive monitoring is so close to out as to make no difference. So we as humanity must adjust and figure out how we are to live with this very powerful tool, and make it serve us instead of fearing it just as the RIAA and ilk must figure how to live in a world when anything can be copied. This situation may seem dissimilar but it is not; something you do not wish to happen is becoming prevalent so instead of a futile battle to stop what cannot be stopped, figure out what leverage you have to control its use.
Some people also claim the UK is now a "Police State". They are mistaken; the difference between a police state and this is that in a Police State is that you are always being WATCHED (or be made to think you are). In the case of the modern UK your public actions are constantly being RECORDED. There is a huge difference between activity and passivity.
If a system is passive and takes no action without direction, if a person in order to direct a system to take action has oversight and rules binding what they may do, then I am generally OK with that system. A network of passive cameras that can be used to track fleeing thugs or stolen cars? Grand. A network of cameras that automatically issues tickets without intervention? Now that pisses me off and I think is a serious misuse of the power granted to the government. The sooner people see the difference the sooner they can push for oversight and reasonable use of the cameras.
Having read David Brin I would argue that any feed from a public camera also be publically accessible. When anyone can watch anyone else, when the police as well as citizens are bothe being recorded in public - then there is equal footing.
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...Both Australia and England saw large jumps in violent crime after instituting draconian gun control laws...
Care to back the Australia comment up with some meaningful information? And the England one too.