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Peter J. Quinn Investigated for Travel Omissions

tadelste writes to tell us O'Reilly is reporting that a recent story in the Boston News about Peter J. Quinn is nothing more than a desperate attempt to slant public opinion in the Massachusetts OpenDocument frenzy. While we have documents showing Microsoft's lobbyists paying for big trips for the former House Majority Leader and his family to go to England and Scotland, Mr. Quinn seems to be getting the spotlight for incomplete travel records. From the article in question: "On most of the trips, Quinn said, his travel and other expenses were paid for by the sponsors of the conferences. On two of the trips -- to Tucson and Washington, D.C. -- Quinn paid his own way, according to state records and an interview with Quinn."

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  1. Guts by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At worst, if Quinn got free vacations at OSS conferences paid by OSS corporations, it will show that at least OSS corporations are fighting proprietary corporations like Microsoft in an arena where victories are won every day: buying political decisions. The OSS revolution is a practical one, not an ideological one (though some ideologues like Stallman can be useful). Maybe once the tiny sector of government that is its technology formats and software is open and transparent, we'll have some luck fixing the political part. Until then, I remember the fortune cookie "it's best not to know how laws and sausages are made".

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    1. Re:Guts by 10101001+10101001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The OSS revolution is a practical one, not an ideological one (though some ideologues like Stallman can be useful).

      It's funny you make this comment, given Stallman is the leader of the Free Software revolution, not the Open Source Software revolution. The OSS revolution was created precisely because of a disagreement over this obsessive focus over ideology: OSS's ideology focused more on the practical effects of open software, though with the ideological assumption that open source will always end up producing cheaper and better code.

      But I would claim that the ideology of OSS can be proven wrong simply by pointing out places were there's niche proprietary software used in appliances (note, not embedded work); the constant rewriting of such small code snippits doesn't really leave room for different development model to cause measurable quality or price differentiations. Not surprisingly the OSS camp is inclined to simply call FS people "nuts" because they desire for even firmware and bioses to be open. So, I whole-heartedly agree the ideology of Stallman can be useful. It's just the ideology of free software, not open source software.

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    2. Re:Guts by Thing+1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I saw a great refutation to that quote, in someone's signature here:

      "The less a man knows about how sausages and laws are made, the easier it is to steal his vote and give him botulism."

      From http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=169368 &cid=14119001

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  2. Re:WTF by tadelste · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's news for nerds because it's about free software in the government - Linux, Openoffice.org, Firefox. It's also sad because Microsoft has to stoop to dirty tricks and can't accept it's loss like men.

  3. Re:Hopefully, this is misunderstanding, but may no by mordors9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unfortunately that is the way of most politicians these days. The need to constantly raise compaign funds has made most of them little more than paid whores. Most citizens are left with voting for "their" paid whore and against the other guy's.

  4. Re:Hopefully, this is misunderstanding, but may no by mabhatter654 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    looking at other news sorces, he filed for all of these, but may not have been "pre-approved" and some people [pro microsoft] think he should have put all the sponsors of the events down.. not just the committee paying him... it's a tempest in a teapot. There's no wrongdoing here, just squibbling about whether he filled out the paperwork right or not. All of these happened AFTER the decision was made to switch to ODF too.

    This was a political thing.. some reporter thinks they're smearing somebody... they waited for a long weekend to even report it when he can't respond... this is editorial abuse, heads should be rolling... and not his.

  5. Re:Happens to the best of us by faedle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except, as it has been pointed out elsewhere, it's not obvious he actually broke the law.

    He went to a couple of trade shows on his own dime, and maybe didn't file every little slip of paperwork required. It happens. Was it a major ethics violation? No, it doesn't appear to be.

    Far from the two felony convictions Microsoft has recieved. If you, personally, recieved two felony convictions, you'd be disbarred from even bidding on projects with the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Why is Microsoft seemingly the sole exception to just about every state's "felons cannot provide services to the state" statutes?

    Next time you go 5 MPH over the speed limit, I expect you to duly walk into the nearest police station and demand they write you a citation. After all, the law is the law.

  6. Re:Who the hell by ClickOnThis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    here a quote from Bernard Golden of IDG: Microsoft has reached out to a couple of politicians in Massachusetts and gotten them to object to the process of this decision. The politicians have raised issues that mandating ODF would also mandate use of OpenOffice and that OpenOffice's open source license would mean that any commercial product that attempted to comply with the mandate would also become open source.

    Wow, two FUD-bites in one quote: (1) mandating ODF would mandate (i.e., force) use of OpenOffice; and (2) vendors that create products compliant with ODF are forced to become open-source. Obviously 200% bull, but an impressive serving of it.

    Not that I doubt the veracity of what you're saying, but do you possibly have a link for this quote? Really, it belongs in a FUD gallery somewhere.

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  7. Let's keep this in perspective . . . by Idou · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We are talking about lazy documentation on what probably will amount to a couple of thousand dollars by someone who probably makes well over 100k/year. Would you honestly risk a high paying job, one you have invested a great deal of time and effort in, over a couple free trips to CONFERENCES?

    If this were real fraud, he would have crossed every t and dotted every i to avoid attention. No, this looks like a case of a really busy, dedicated individual who was a bit careless with some mundane, tedious paperwork.
    There are probably millions of government employees who never have this problem because all they do is paperwork and never risk anything based on principles of what is best for the public.

    It would be much more interesting to trace the paper-trail for how this article came to existence. . .

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  8. Remember Radwanski? by dan+of+the+north · · Score: 2, Insightful

    George Radwanski resigned as Privacy Commissioner of Canada over dubious expense claims. Unfortunately, an investigation did back up the charges. I say unfortunately because Radwanski was an effective champion of our privacy rights.

    All of this is to say that Peter Quinn may be a good person doing good things but, there is a line that may have been crossed... as PJ points out in her article: It is too bad that 3 time Pulitzer winner Stephen Kurkjian didn't wait until he had the full story before publishing his article.

  9. Re:Who the heck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Bill? Is that you?

  10. Taking a page from the Rove playbook by HangingChad · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Don't just attack the message, smear the messenger.

    We complain about not having good candidates to vote for, but what sane person is going to run for office in this sleazy poliical climate?

    Yes, Mass. was proposing an open document format. That would make him a good choice as a keynote speaker at OSS conferences. And they break this on a weekend? This stinks like yesterday's diapers.

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  11. a political liability for Gov. Mitt Romney by miked98 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This story is a caricature of a purposefully leaked, politically motivated hatchet job that -- to the glee of the "unnamed sources" who served it up -- got past the Thanksgiving rag tag staff and onto Page One.

    It's unclear what this very public investigation about is even about. Misuse of taxpayer dollars? Quinn paid *his own way* to attend two of these technical conferences and was an invited expenses-paid speaker for others. Cozy relationships with corporate sponsors? The article notes that his expenses-paid conferences were sponsored by a "galaxy of computer companies" -- e.g. the free market. Not filling out the proper paperwork? Since when is improper paperwork Page One material? (Maybe Quinn never got the memo about those TPS reports).

    So what is Peter J. Quinn guilty of? Being a political liability for Governor and Presidential Hopeful Mitt Romney. Having one of your employees piss off the bosses of the world's richest software company is no way to kick off your 2008 campaign fundraising drive.

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  12. Re:Hopefully, this is misunderstanding, but may no by DrJimbo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    max born said:
    This guy is supposed to list the companies that financed his travel. He apparently didn't. He fscked up and gave Microsoft amunition. Quinn unecessarily caused the general public to question the motivations behind the opendoc initiative. And all over some simple paperwork.
    Oh for cryin' out loud. Are you serious?

    Nobody lists all the fsckin' companies that sponsor a conference when they are being paid by the conference. If I got funded by a tv station, I would list the tv station but not all of its sponsors (advertisers). What you say makes no sense and is not how the real world operates.

    The guy didn't fsck up at all. The Boston Globe was trying to raise muck where there wasn't any muck to be found. They published this crap and now they are being ridiculed.

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  13. Re:Hopefully, this is misunderstanding, but may no by aaronl · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the state law says you have to list who paid for the trip, and you list the conference, then where is the problem? If you go to E3 as a speaker, EA did not pay for your trip, the E3 conference did. If you are an Olympic athelete, the Olympic committeee pays for your trip, not Coke.

    When you ask for reimbursement, you document why and where you went, the costs, mileage (if applicable), and the applicable code. Often the agency will reimburse you, and then the event will reimburse the agency.

    I really doubt that this is anything but The Globe making stuff up on this one.

  14. Re:Hopefully, this is misunderstanding, but may no by pallmall1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If the MA state law says you must declare XYZ then you must.
    Big IF there. Even the Globe doesn't know if Quinn needed to or in fact DID declare anything necessary, because they don't even know what, if anything, it would be necessary for him to disclose. They just ran a Thanksgiving smear on the guy without even knowing what the rules are that they wrote on page one he's being "inquired" about. Kind of like that "XYZ" bullshit you mentioned.

    The Boston Globe method was to 1) ask what the disclosure rules are because they didn't know, and then 2) print an article on the front page that says the Governor's administration has launched an inquiry into possible ethics violation by Quinn. Note that the big pile of #2 the Globe put on page one came before they knew what the rules are, or without giving Quinn a chance to respond because they couldn't reach him on THANKSGIVING DAY.

    If you can't smell this smear job, you should see a doctor and let him count the holes in your head. It's not about what "side" anyone is on, it's about ethics, and the Boston Globe has demonstrated that they have none.
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  15. Microsoft Hatchet Job Using The Globe by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nothing more.

    The Globe is owned by the New York Times, which is Sultzberger being used by Bush and cronies to sell the Iraq War. Now we have the Globe being used by Microsoft to attack the Open Document Format decision in Massachusetts.

    Once a sellout, always a sellout.

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