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Ingredients in Beer as a Cancer Treatment?

ThePuceGuardian writes to tell us Biology News Net is reporting that one of the compounds found only in hops has gained rapid notice as a micronutrient that may help prevent many types of cancer. From the article: "Quite a bit is now known about the biological mechanism of action of this compound and the ways it may help prevent cancer or have other metabolic value. But even before most of those studies have been completed, efforts are under way to isolate and market it as a food supplement. A "health beer" with enhanced levels of the compound is already being developed."

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  1. can't resist by Xiph · · Score: 4, Funny

    this sure will make the cancerward a more cheerful place...

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    1. Re:can't resist by mhearne · · Score: 3, Informative

      It has been known for a long time that beer is beneficial, and that it helps to prevent cancer, or to endure it better. This is most especially true concerning the colon, and the organs.

      Of course there will be the usual comments about drunkeness, but only very low IQ people connect the two.

      I'm glad to see it finally published.

      Michael

  2. Oh well if I have to then by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Funny

    I suppose I can drink more beer, but purely for medicinal purposes mind you.

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    1. Re:Oh well if I have to then by Ugly+American · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can see the label now:

      "Use as directed. Side effects include enlarged waistline, impaired vision, and brewer's droop."

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    2. Re:Oh well if I have to then by jacquesm · · Score: 5, Funny

      man, I can see it coming: Canabis is good for memory, beer is good against cancer. Time to move to Holland for all of you !

    3. Re:Oh well if I have to then by jc42 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed. One of the first major studies that dealt with the topic was done in the UK back in the 1970's. It was what's now often called a "data dredging" study, digging up lots and lots of medical records, running correlations of everything against everything else, to discover what might be correlated with long life.

      They expressed a bit of surprise that their main results turned out to be about alcoholic beverages. They reported that, while drunkards didn't do too well, teetotallers didn't do a lot better. Those who lived longest were what they called "moderate" drinkers. Many readers here in the US were a bit surprised to discover that this meant 3 or 4 "drinks" (about 1 ounce or 25-30 ml alcohol each) per day for the average-size person. Effectiveness fell off on either side of this peak level.

      They also said that people who drank mostly beer or wine showed the most benefit. Distilled beverages were only about half as effective. But drinking distilled booze mixed with fruit juices was about as good for you as beer or wine. They conjectured that the benefit was from both the alcohol and the vitamins produced by yeast or fruit.

      There was a strong "further research is needed" in the summary. After all, it was just a correlation study, and said little about causation. Since then there have been a lot of more-detailed studies. This study is just the latest in a series, and a lot more research is still needed.

      Finding volunteer subjects is perhaps easier with these studies than with most.

      And it has been fun watching the media try to spin the results of study after study that show the benefits of (moderate) alcohol consumption.

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  3. That's really great. by antek9 · · Score: 4, Funny

    No big investments necessary, because cancer treatment 'clinics' are already in place on every corner in every city, worldwide. Except Iran and North Korea, maybe. Poor folks!

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  4. Not Surprising by turbosk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hops also contains a slightly psychoactive substance, lupulin. Few beer drinkers know that amongst all plants the closest relative of hops is cannabis.

    Division Spermatophyta (seed plants)
    Class Angiospermae (flowering plants)
    Sub-Class Dicotyledons (two cotyledons on seedling)
    Order Urticates (elms, mulberries, nettles)
    Family Cannabinaceae (hops and cannabis)

    Food for thought.... :)

    1. Re:Not Surprising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I, for one, welcome our new, drunk, stoned and cancer free selves.

    2. Re:Not Surprising by Frumious+Wombat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bummer dude. Better have a beer.

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  5. smokers by eneville · · Score: 4, Funny

    I suppose it's not so bad to smoke in the pub after all...

  6. Mmmmmm... by Cally · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...Health Beer!

    Strange but true, hops are related to marijuana. Hence the definite high you get from a pint of real beer vs. the the fuzzy-headed blaaah that a pint of fizzy yellow larger brewed in a 40,000 gallon chemical plant produces.

    (I assume this mention of 'hops' means that the beer referred to is proper beer, aka ale, which has fortunately made a good comeback in the UK in the last 10-15 years. A harmless 'welcome to the UK' ceremony I like to perform on arrivals from... well, anywhere, really, except Ireland perhaps, is to go for a drink and subtly pressure them into trying a pint or two of ale. They tend to think about beer in terms of how much lager they can consume, neck three pints and get entertainly messy, even tho' the alcohol content is about the same.

    Warning: do not try this on a school night *)

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  7. wow that's weird by TheCreeep · · Score: 5, Funny

    What's up with the title "Ingredients in Beer as a Cancer Treatment?".
    This is slashdot for crying out loud... I would have expected "Beer Cures Cancer".

  8. Prevent != Treatment !!!! by eggoeater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are many things that may help prevent cancer.

    There are very few things you can use to treat cancer.

  9. As Ben said... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -- Ben Franklin

  10. The same story template, all over again by GroeFaZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While in my mid-20s I'm not considering myself old, I wonder if the number of food/beverage-related cancer stories I've come across is still in the double digits. If someone had the endurance to sum them all up, I guess the result would be something like that:

    Use common sense. Eat and drink whatever you have been eating and drinking all your life and whatever you feel like, but don't be excessive in quantity in either direction. Most important, eat and drink in enjoyable company of family or friends, take your time, and don't stress yourself out. While all of this is still no guarantee for anything, it certainly does not damage your overall health. Humanity has survived and prospered for millennia without reading a single cancer study.

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  11. Don't get too excited by sam_handelman · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article is a little light on the scientific details, but I assume (making an ass of u and me) that the evidence they're talking about are enzymatic activity assays from isolated tissues. A significant minority of all human genes have been implicated in the development of cancer - finding a compound that downregulates some of them in tissue culture isn't really surprising.

      Similar evidence has been accumulated regarding a host of other compounds - as far as I'm aware, none of them have ever proven useful either as treatments or as prophylactics. That said, by all means, dose a population of mice with hops extract and see if it prevents them from getting cancer.

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  12. Funny. by Melllvar · · Score: 5, Informative

    I was just on Some Random Website the other day reading about how before hops found its way into beers (sometime around the fourteenth century, I think), its principle use in Europe was as a medicinal herb. Usually brewed as a tea, as I recall.

    Another Fun Beer Fact: before the British "discovered" how to put hops in their beer, the primary flavoring agent they used was creeping charlie. Ever since I found that out, I've always kinda wondered what that would taste like ...

    Another plant that seems to have tremendous health benefits (fightin' cancer, and alzheimer's, and as a general anti-inflammatory, etc.) is turmeric -- which is one of the primary ingredients of curry.

    Hmmmm ... beer and curry ... the British must live fer freakin' ever.

  13. Re:price of hops by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 5, Informative

    You raised a very interesting point there. Ales in Scotland were traditionally brewed with bittering agents other than hops, (Heather, thyme, myrltle, pine needles etc). Hops generally does not grow in Scotland and so has to be imported. After Scotland lost its indepedance folowing the act of union, it was decreed that all ales must be brewed with hops.

    Scottish brewers had no choice but to import hops, mostly from Kent. A tax was payable on the purchase of hops, putting Scottish brewers at a disadvantage. The solution was to brew with less hops but more malt. So a pint of Scottish heavy would have had less bitterness, (less hops), but a more full bodied flavour than its English equivalent.

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  14. Wisdom of Those Who Came Before by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A little known fact (not described in the High School history books) is that the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth because they had run out of beer and needed to make more. I had always held the founders in high esteem, and this news just elevates that.

  15. Re:price of hops by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Informative

    That law must have been changed at some point. Last time I was in Scotland, I drank ... um ... quite a bit ... of heather ale. The hoppy ales still predominated, of course, but it seemed like at least half the pubs had heather ale on tap. Good stuff; I do love my hops, but I'll certainly take a pint or five of heather on occasion.

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  16. Angiogenesis Inhibitors by eric76 · · Score: 3, Informative

    One class of compounds called angiogenesis inhibitors help protect the body from cancers by blocking the enzymes emitted by the cancers to signal the body to build a blood supply to the cancer. No additional blood supply means the cancer stalls out.

    The pioneer in the area is a Dr. Judah Folkman. If you ever get a chance to hear him speak, don't pass up the opportunity.

    According to Dr Folkman, the food with the highest amount of angiogenesis inhibitors found so far are Indian curries.

    So have curries with your beer and attack the cancers on two fronts.

    Even better, restrict your intake of iron and attack the cancers on three fronts. Too much iron can increase the growth of certain cancers.

  17. Hmm. by FSUpaintball · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, I guess now we know why college kids rarely get cancer.