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Smash Bros. Creator On-Board For Revolution Smash

Gamespot reports that Nintendo has opened an office dedicated to the next-gen sequel to Smash Bros. From the article: "Heading up the new studio is the series' original creator, Masahiro Sakurai. He returns to the Nintendo organization after a two-year absence. According to Famitsu, Sakurai was persuaded by Nintendo president Satoru Iwata to return to Nintendo over conversations that took place at the E3 Expo held earlier this year. Preparing a new Super Smash Bros. game with such short notice was not easy for Sakurai, given the game's tight development schedule."

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  1. Great news. by Hitto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Smash Bros and its sequel hide gameplay gems behind the cutesy-looking characters. I'm really looking forward to this, because it's about time Nintendo stopped pumping out "Mario Parties" and started doing more MK and SSB stuff.
    And when the hell are they going to release one on the DS? Online play, ala Mario Kart only this time with more freedom to choose whoever you want to play, and bam. Instant success. Jump Super Stars proved that it's possible, so what are they waiting for?

    1. Re:Great news. by SScorpio · · Score: 1

      It was already said during the E3 announcement of the Revolution that the Revolution's SSB will be playable online. It would be interesting to see a DS SSB, but if they are pumping all of their resources to make the Revolution's SSB even better than the Gamecube's I'm all for not getting a DS one.

    2. Re:Great news. by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      Smash Bros and its sequel hide gameplay gems behind the cutesy-looking characters. I'm really looking forward to this, because it's about time Nintendo stopped pumping out "Mario Parties" and started doing more MK and SSB stuff.

      I'd like to see more SSB games as well, but I'm a little worried that if they start pumping them out, the series will run into the same problem as many others. The quality of the games will go down in order to keep putting them out on a schedule and people will start to get bored with the franchise. I'd much rather see a single solid release every 4 years than a new game every 2 years.

      Just look at some other great series of games that are starting to get a little jaded because they're being overproduced and saturating the market. Sure, people would still buy the game, but it would take a lot a way from the series if sequels just kept cropping up. Among my all time favorite series of games are the Smash Bros. series and the Chrono series, both of which have only had two titles, which were spaced apart by a good amount of time.

      I'm a fan of the Splinter Cell series, but just look how many games they've produced, especially considering they've made all of the games in the span between SSB:M and the upcomming one for the Revolution. For all any of us now, there will be a 4th game in the Splinter Cell game before the next SSB game comes out. I like SC a lot, but I can only play so much SC before I just get tired of it and want something else.

      Instead of nuturing the series they're almost treating it like a cash cow. I think they should slow down a bit and take their time with the series. Like I said, people will still continue to buy it, but I really don't want any series that I enjoy to turn into another Tomb Raider.

    3. Re:Great news. by Spaceman+Spiff+II · · Score: 1

      There really is a massive amount of little strategic and technical gems hidden in that game. Me and my friends at my dorm here play it a lot, and the more we play the more we discover. Certain characters have better match-ups against other characters, on different levels. Also, there's a huge amount of technical skill that you can pick up, doing things like "wavedashing", or "short hopping an aerial attack then fast-falling into an L-cancel." A good list of techniques is here: http://ssbm.detstar.com/advancedmoves2/ , or of course the de facto standard advanced smasher's place: http://www.smashboards.com/ So basically, I'm buying a Revolution half because of the controller, and half because of the new Smash Bros.! I'm excited to hear they're going all out on it, what with a new office and all.

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  2. Single-player by /ASCII · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My hopes are kind of different. I though the single-player arcade mode of SSB, while obviously rushed and rather thin, was an awesome idea: Choose any of the classic Nintendo characres and play them in a world that contains levels taken from various classic Nintendo games. Try to play 'Ice climber' using Pikachu, or playing Zelda using Fox, etc. Given enough effort and polish, this could be a wonderful way to rediscover the magic of the older Nintendo titles. Even more fun would be a multiplayer co-op version of the arcade mode.

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    1. Re:Single-player by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 1

      Isn't this what the Adventure mode in SSBM is? Seems like you just described it in your post anyway.

    2. Re:Single-player by PyroMosh · · Score: 1

      I think what the grandparent is saying is that they liked the idea from SSBM's single player, but that they feel it was shallow and rushed. They would like to see a second attempt at the same where more care is used to give players a deeper, richer experience.

    3. Re:Single-player by Kazzahdrane · · Score: 1

      Perhaps, I thought they were specifying SSB(not Melee, but the first game which was on the N64) and I was pointing out that the sequel seemed to have what they wanted.

  3. An office JUST for Smash Bros? by MMaestro · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does this mean we can expect more than one Smash Bros game on the Revolution? I mean it'd be a huge waste of resources to open an office for one game then shut it down upon completion..

    1. Re:An office JUST for Smash Bros? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For any other game, sure! But you're talking about SMASH BROS. It is perfect in both design and execution; if this is what Nintendo had to do to get another one going, then great!

      Also, don't forget, Iwata himself worked on the first two smash bros games. He has more interest in it than just a good franchise!

    2. Re:An office JUST for Smash Bros? by Headcase88 · · Score: 1

      They have a lot of work to do: Revo controller setup, online play, new characters, new arenas, hopefully a better 1P Adventure mode, new 1P modes, more customization... this could be a bigger jump than the one from the original to Melee if they do it right. That takes a lot of resources (ie its own office), but it'll be a big deal because it will be a huge hook to sell consoles.

      And if they make another one about two thirds into the Revo's life, I'd pick it up right away as long it represented another big jump.

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    3. Re:An office JUST for Smash Bros? by ClamIAm · · Score: 1

      Hello sir, let me introduce you to my friends. They are called the United States Government. Except they usually shut down the office before it accomplishes its first goal, or leave the office open til' way after its usefulness has expired.

    4. Re:An office JUST for Smash Bros? by j0nb0y · · Score: 1

      I'm hoping for a big jump. As great as SSB and Melee were, Melee was really just an incremental improvement over the original game. The two games are very similar. Hopefully this one will be a big jump, and not SSB v1.3.

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    5. Re:An office JUST for Smash Bros? by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 1

      Who's to say they won't attempt a DS version at some point?

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  4. Cross-Platform by oahazmatt · · Score: 1

    I would like to see a DS-edition of Smash Bros., but not as a complete stand alone game. We've already seen Gameboy/Gamecube connectivity with Metroid (where completing the GBA version unlocked the original Metroid in the Gamecube version [or something similar, my facts may be off]) and Animal Crossing (where your character could visit an island that you could transfer to your GBA, or where classic NES games could be transferred to the GBA.)
    If Nintendo created not only an online SSB for the Revolution, but a DS "lite" edition that would allow for certain bonuses in each game reflected by your game stats (for example, playing the DS edition in multi-player mode for over an hour might unlock a new attack for a character in the Revolution edition) that would be quite interesting. Allow for exclusive maps, attacks, perhaps a hidden character that is unlocked on each console when first sync'ed. Account for records in each game. I believe something along that line would be very enjoyable.
    My $1.25 on the topic.

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    1. Re:Cross-Platform by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      Ewww. You want unlockables? That you have to buy two games and two consoles to use?

    2. Re:Cross-Platform by oahazmatt · · Score: 1

      For one thing, having SSB on the DS would be nice, as you could take it more places than you could the Revolution. The portability plus connectivity would be a nice feature. Yes, I think it would be good incentive to have both characters that are unlocked in the single game by sole achievements, then exclusives that are only unlocked through sync'ing the two devices. (Or using an Action Replay, of course.)

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    3. Re:Cross-Platform by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      I'd sell my damn DS if they did that. Unlockables are annoying enough. Forcing me to buy 2 games to get to use the full value of a game I paid for is *not* cool. WHen I buy a game, every facet of that game should be available to me, if I have the skill to achieve it. It should *NOT* require me to spend additional money to attain.

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    4. Re:Cross-Platform by daeley · · Score: 1

      WHen I buy a game, every facet of that game should be available to me, if I have the skill to achieve it. It should *NOT* require me to spend additional money to attain.

      Not a big MMORPG fan I take it? ;D

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    5. Re:Cross-Platform by Meagermanx · · Score: 1

      I don't mind single-player unlockables, but I can't stand having to unlock multiplayer modes/moves/weapons/maps, etcetera. Multiplayer is about having fun with other people, not about challenging the computer.

  5. ok, that has to be the title! by Allison+Geode · · Score: 2, Funny

    the title of this article includes the phrase "Revolution Smash" and you know what? that has to be the title now. either that, or "Smash Smash Revolution." just don't get it crossed with "Smash Smash Xbox" because that could be costly and potentially retarded.

  6. Launch title? by Headcase88 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was under the impression that the next Smash has been in development for a while. How are they supposed to make an amazing game with less that a year before the release of the Revo?

    They say they might be putting 50 people on the project, but that will only go so far. The old adage of "hiring 9 pregnant women to produce a baby in a month" comes to mind.

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    1. Re:Launch title? by wilgibson · · Score: 1

      I was under the impression that the next Smash has been in development for a while.
       
      They annouced Smash Bros. for the Revolution when they showed off the mock up at E3. I'm just surprised Gamespot is just reporting the fact that Sakurai was coming back for the next Smash game. I heard about it on other sites atleast 2 weeks ago.

    2. Re:Launch title? by fwitness · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's less than year before the release of the revolution? Wow. Didn't think there was a release date yet. The only fact I've heard is that it's less than a year before we know when the details of what we may know might be released. That's not what I call a release date though.

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    3. Re:Launch title? by Spaceman+Spiff+II · · Score: 1

      Well the standard line is a release date of 2006 from a number of places: Iwata, the Nintendo hot line, etc. And since it's December now, I'd say "less than a year" is a safe bet.

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  7. I'm hoping for.. by Supurcell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope that they include some more characters that aren't just different looking Mario. I can understand why they need Luigi, but is Dr. Mario really necessary? Being a self proclaimed master of Smash Bros, I can feel the difference between two similar characters, but it is a little disappointing to unlock Ganondorf to find out that he is just a Cptn Falcon. I am hoping for more unique, Ice Climber-type, characters.

    1. Re:I'm hoping for.. by solive1 · · Score: 1

      I don't know how you consider the big hulking mass that is Ganondorf another Captain Falcon.

    2. Re:I'm hoping for.. by Spaceman+Spiff+II · · Score: 1
      Wait... are you saying instead of a Mario clone you want an Ice Climbers clone? Or are you saying you want a brand new character in the way that the Ice Climbers were brand new?

      I definitely agree with you there on the second one, if that's what you mean. I too can "feel the difference" as you put it of the similar characters, but it would be nice to have a super wide variety of choices. Of course, I want the game soon, too, so it'd be a trade-off in time vs. features.

      Ah well, I suppose Melee could last me a while longer, give me a super product Nintendo!

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    3. Re:I'm hoping for.. by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Bah. What we all want is smash brothers DS, with wifi connectivity. You can already sorta get this experience with kaillera and an N64 emulator that supports it; it is actually somewhat smooth. You might think a fighting game is impossible online because of the latency, but if it can work through kaillera, which plays games that aren't even designed for netplay, then certainly it could work for the DS if it was built from the ground up for netplay. You sorta adapt the the latency after a while.

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    4. Re:I'm hoping for.. by steveo777 · · Score: 1
      Kid Icarus. Need I say more?

      I suppose there might be a way for "A Boy and His Blob?

      Too bad the Belmonts are all Konami's charecters. I'd like to battle it out with them some time.

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  8. Re:Stop it with the mario brothers shit! by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You realize that Smash Bros unites pretty much every franchise Nintendo ever made and that's half the point of the game? There's no need to put Mario or DK into new genres but there's no point in removing them from an all-stars game.

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  9. Re:Stop it with the mario brothers shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, but I can already seen the lineup for the next console.

    Mariocart (likely a few of these, at least)
    Mariobros
    Marioparty
    Smashbros
    3 or > zelda games
    2 or > metroid games
    and a few innovative games that they'll dump mario on again.

    I've done all these to death. Give me something new.

  10. Re:Stop it with the mario brothers shit! by senocular · · Score: 1

    So you're suggesting to Nintendo that they dump some of the most successful franchises in gaming history and just... move on? Maybe Coke should stop making Coke. I've been drinking that crap for over 20 years! NO MORE!!!

  11. Re:Stop it with the mario brothers shit! by FLAGGR · · Score: 1

    Tell EA to stop making football games.

    Nintendo is only one developer, albiet a very big one, oher people do make software for their hardware. Think of the first party games from MS and Sony, and theres a pretty big yawn (some shooters from one camp, and some boring platforming mario ripoffs from the other.) Nintendo usually goes off in crazy directions making new IP (nintendogs is a recent example, pikmin etc) and they do a better job at making new IP than most of the industry on average (iD software: wolfienstien quake and doom, lots of sequals to games which are basically the same with soem graphical tweaks, Blizzard: starcraft and warcraft, two games which are the same with different looking characters, and hey look, after the sequels of WC got boring, they made an mmorpg of it! Shame! etc etc)

    Nintendo needs to rely somewhat on established franchises for financial stablity. But guess what, its obviously working, which means people are buying it, which means people like it.

  12. Re:Stop it with the mario brothers shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you don't like them, then don't fucking buy them you stupid cunt! Nobody's forcing you to play these games over, but I don't know how faithful Metroid Prime is to the NES version.

  13. Re:Stop it with the mario brothers shit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, let's compare a consumable like Coke with a video game..

    Yet another botched analogy. There should be a posting rule that says "no analogies" since NOBODY can fucking get one right on this goddamned board.