2008 Olympics Aiming For Open Source

An anonymous reader writes "The IOC is considering switching its IT infrastructure to an open source platform for the 2008 Beijng Games, according to an article on silicon.com. The Olympic IT program director says the move will save money on licences but warned that support costs for open source in China could yet derail the plans. There are also some photos of the Olympics IT operation."

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Because

[sloths]

If they used Windows it would all be illegal copies.

Ironic...

[ThatGeek]

It's ironic. Really.

All this time I've been complaining how they don't let real amateur athletes in (they all practice non-stop for years under corporate sponsorship), when I should have been complaining that the Olympics doesn't let real amateur software in instead.

sure.... the real story

[mAIsE]

Negotiations are not going well with m$ ;)

Re:I for one

[sumday]

Even if it was the winter olympics being held in beijing in 2008, your post would still be retarded.

Great...

[Universal Nerd]

I find it obvious that they have absolutely no intention of changing from legacy MS-centric software to free software (be it what it may). Free software has oficially become a bargaining chip for corporations that want to bring down the cost of Microsoft solutions.

I think it's a bad move to REALLY throw the yoke on Microsoft. The IOC being savy business men they are, smell MS's fears in the air and they threaten Microsoft's costs down - just like AOL did with them a little while ago:

AOL: LOL! M$, lower your prices or we'll use Mozilla, it'z 1337! ROFLMO!!!!1
Microsoft: O RLY? Here!
AOL: w00t. U teh r0x0rZ!!!
Microsoft: WTF?

Re:Great...

[tonyr60]

Obviously you know more about Atos Origin than I can find. The article refers to UNIX servers and looking at systems vacancies at Atos Origin, they are looking for lots of UNIX systems admins. And from a press blurb about the last olympic games "We're putting together an architecture that's quite big for a short period, but that's how it works. We have around 10,000 desktops, 500 laptops, 400 Unix servers, plus another 450 Windows servers."

I get the impression that the typical olympics IT infrastructure selection is based on business requirements.

Re:Great...

[grcumb]

"We're putting together an architecture that's quite big for a short period, but that's how it works. We have around 10,000 desktops, 500 laptops, 400 Unix servers, plus another 450 Windows servers."

That's kind of interesting, because the linked story offers the following numbers:

The IT behind the Olympics is a massive operation involving some 1,200 IT team members, including 800 volunteers, who run 450 Intel-based servers and Unix boxes, 4,700 PCs and 700 printers.

Anyway, that leads me to the point I want to make:

I've been promoting FOSS on Linux professionally since 1998, but this kind of muddiness always makes me question the wisdom of change. Not from a quality or philosphical standpoint, mind you, but from the perspective of protecting the clients from themselves.

See, here we are at the end of 2005, and the IOC is thinking about moving to FOSS and Linux by 2008. If they intend to move all 10,500 PCs and the functionality of ~900 servers to from proprietary software FOSS and run a 24-7 terrorist-proof operation with global reach, hooking into countless other data systems... They are, not to put too fine a point on it, terminally stupid. Any system-wide change this large should be the result of very careful study. Note especially the part where it says the IT system has approximately 2 volunteers for every single paid staff member. Try to imagine what the training would be like if the software isn't spot-on in its interface design.

BUT... if they're looking at re-working a few key systems in order to improve their robustness and lower their costs, then I would say that they've made an inspired choice that shows perceptiveness and leadership. 8^)

And that's the problem with much tech industry 'journalism' these days. We are given almost no useful details. I long for the days when a journalist's response to an ignorant readership was to educate them rather than to gloss over details.

Impressive cooling system

[DavidV]

These guys must be into some serious overclocking by the look of their cooling system.

http://hardware.silicon.com/servers/0,39024647,391 54787-3,00.htm

Is this a story yet?

[TrappedByMyself]

The 2008 Beijing Olympic Games could switch to a cost-saving open source technology platform under proposals to be considered by the International Olympic Committee (IOC).
The open source move will be recommended by the IOC's technology partner Atos Origin on the back of guidance from sub-contractors that include HP and IBM.
Claude Philipps, programme director at Atos Origin for the 2006 Turin Winter Olympics, told silicon.com the plans will be put to the IOC in a formal proposal and that the committee will then make the final decision.
He said: "For open source we have a plan to propose this for Beijing. It will save money on the licences."
But he said support costs could scupper the open source switch. "The issue might be support because especially in China you don't have all the companies we have in Europe and the US," he said.

I know the OSS advocates will wave their victoy flags, write eloquent stories about the demise of Microsoft, and rack up free karma, but nothing has happened yet. Moves like this are considered all the time when someone thinks they can save money with all this 'free' software. Hopefully with IBM in the mix, this will actually happen, but for now this really isn't a story. Come back when the decision is made.

IOC = corruption

[DNS-and-BIND]

Oh, come on. This is the International Olympic Committee that we're talking about here. They're more corrupt than the city of New Orleans. They don't do anything unless someone bribes them to do it. My guess is, the IT contractors aren't offering big enough kickbacks, and they're waving the OSS option around in order to get more money.

And there's the whole Great Firewall issue to deal with. How will the Chinese government deal with it? I don't think that journalists will like having the BBC blocked. Perhaps they'll unblock the space allocated to the Olympic village. But, even then, I don't know if the Great Firewall is technically capable of this. Even five-star hotels catering to foreigners are blocked, and they can show satellite news stations that are off-limits to Chinese nationals.

Working as a Olympic Volunteer

[paul.schulz]

In the Sydney 2000 Olympics I worked as a volunteer in
the Sports Results section in Adelaide, South Australia.
We had 6 of the football (soccer) matches and one final.

Our small team had to:
- Print the start lists of players when they came through
    at beginning of the matches
- (Watch the game.. a perk)
- Print the results of all the matches played around
    Austalia at the end.

The printouts (100's) were then run out to the various
people who needed them around the venue. eg. Game Results,
Media, Olympic Family (VIP's)

It was a low tech result, but it relied on IBM software
for the print jobs, and was centrally managed/controlled
on their network. Everything went through Sydney.

I don't know what would have happened if the network
had failed, other than we also had been given a Fax machine
as a backup.

It was a good experience, and FLOSS should be able to bring
somethign to the table...

W