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World's Tallest Building Causing Earthquakes?

IZ Reloaded writes "A geologist thinks that the increase in the number of earthquakes in Taiwan is due to Taipei 101, the world's tallest building. CNN reports: 'Lin said Taipei 101 weighed 700,000 tons and estimated stress from vertical loading on its foundation at 4.7 bars, of which some would be transferred to the earth's upper crust due to extremely soft sedimentary rocks beneath the Taipei basin. If a fault is about to crack, then a little pressure can trigger an earthquake. It's like the last straw that breaks the camel's back.'" More from The Guardian.

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  1. Re:Tallest != Largest by Stevyn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whats more interesting is the Boeing Everett plant mentioned in that link has its own weather. I saw a special on it on the history channel and it said how it can rain inside the building. This along with the building mentioned in the article shows how humans can not assume their pride or ambition can overcome the forces of nature. You can construct a strong building, but if the foundation is made of quicksand over a fault line, it just might sink.

  2. Re:it may be tall but its not the "largest" by tarpy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh good lord...this whole article is now going to degenerate into a discussion of what is really meant by "tallest" and "largest".

    I live in Chicago, and people still try to make the argument that if you count from the sub-sub-sub-sub-basement to the top of the tranmission spikes, then the Sears Tower is still the world's {largest | tallest}.

    I guess bragging rights still must count for something.

  3. Re:So it's true then... by Council · · Score: 4, Interesting
    If you put enough elephants in one place, you can shift the rotation of the planet!

    (This looks like a job for Mythbusters!)

    I once calculated that if you spin around in an office chair, you rob the day of about 10^-35 seconds.

    Of course, that's if you spin counterclockwise. Clockwise slows the earth down and lengthens the day.

    If you wanna be precise, multiply by the sine of your latitude -- on the equator, it has no effect.

    Of course, if you want to be precise, do the calculation yourself. I worked it out a long time ago while sitting in a spinning chair at a long overnight security guard shift. It might've been 1/10^35th of a DAY, or something. It's probably right to within a factor of ten million (10^7) and depends on how fat you are and how you hold your arms and legs.
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  4. BBC article by msbsod · · Score: 5, Interesting

    BBC brought the story a day earlier, shorter, no "feet" balast and with a bit more details. In particular they mention that the distance of Tapei 101 to the ancient earthquake fault (inactive for 45,000 years) is 200m, and they also point out that some people doubt that the tower is causing earth quake (not that I want to take sides).

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4493360.st m

  5. Re:Biggest problem by isd_glory · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1. We (America) built many of the original "tallest" skyscrapers.
    2. In order for the rest of the world to remain architecturally competitive, they were forced to build taller and taller buildings.
    3. After a certain point, those tall buildings may eventually cause earthquake resulting in economic damage for that country.

    A rather dastardly plan, eh? ;)

  6. Re:Nature will work it out by shmlco · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Correct. If big buildings cause major earthquakes, then L.A. and San Francisco should have fallen into the sea by now. Not to mention Manhattan...

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  7. Re:Nature will work it out by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Interesting


    Just for reference and apocryphal, facilities built near the Alberta Tar Sands take into consideration that a certain tilt for a large installation may happen as voiding occurs underground.

    I've had a look at the civil drawings for one of these projects and there are deep piles everywhere. Mind you, this installation was the largest installation of its type ever (2 huge air compressors), so every precaution is taken.

  8. When junk science excells in stupidity. by NeuroManson · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article states that the micro quakes have been on the rise since the they started constructing the building.

    Now I dunno about you, but I seriously doubt that the tower weighed 700,000 tons from the moment they poured the concrete foundations, which more than likely means the micro quakes simply coincided with the beginning of construction, independant of any outside human activity.

    If the quakes increased in number as the building progressed, then it could be possible.

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  9. Re:Nature will work it out by jsailor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You're right about location being a factor. Keep in mind that lower Manhattan today is not the same shape as it was 400 years ago. Various forms of fill have been brought in the expand its foot print. The most obvious example is the World Financial Center buildings. Look at pre-1980 photos, you won't see any land in the spot they occupy now. An older example is the where the WTC used to be. When building those towers, they dug through landfill that included artifacts from the 1600's.

    In general, no building of size can be built in NYC until they've excavated down to "sounding rock". Yes, a guy actually gets paid to come in with what amounts to an advanced tuning fork and bangs the rock to determine whether it's sufficient.