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E-Tracking May Change the Way You Drive

frdmfghtr writes "ZDNet.com is running a story about a runaway idea of a tracking automobiles via GPS. Not to be confused with the Canadian project geared towards anti-speeding ideas, this one does in fact have the goal of tracking your vehicle. 'The U.S. Department of Transportation has been handing millions of dollars to state governments for GPS-tracking pilot projects designed to track vehicles wherever they go. So far, Washington state and Oregon have received fat federal checks to figure out how to levy these 'mileage-based road user fees.' However, the article goes on to talk about how there is no provision in place to prevent the uncontrolled surveillance of motorists without a court order."

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  1. User fees are the way to go by ReformedExCon · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why shouldn't those who use a public facility more be also forced to pay more?

    It seems pretty straightforward to me.

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    1. Re:User fees are the way to go by aussie_a · · Score: -1, Troll

      And you care if the police know your location... why? Are they going to go to the newspapers and announce you visit brothels on a regular basis (which is acutally, illegal y'know)? Are you afraid because you entered a building the same as terrorist Bob that they'll think you're a terrorist now? If it's the latter, I think your problem is with their criteria on naming people terrorists. Not in them knowing where you were at 8:00 pm, Saturday 23rd of October, 2005.

  2. Why would they want to? by aussie_a · · Score: -1, Troll

    there is no provision in place to prevent the uncontrolled surveillance of motorists without a court order.

    Okay, good point. The whole constitution thing, but let's ignore that for a second. So what if they're watching you? What're they going to do with that information? Prove you chopped up some chick? Well that's what you get for chopping her up.

    If you don't break the law, chances are they won't even want to bother watching you. And if you do break the law, you can't really complain.

    But yes, it is in the constitution that they can't do that, so it shouldn't be allowed. But that's the only reason against it. It's not like your wife can log into the satellites and find out you've got a gay lover. The only bad thing about it is, it's against the constitution. But... there really isn't anything bad about it other then that. Curbing free speech is bad for reasons other then it's part of the constitution. But the police finding out where you're driving, I can't think of any negative effects that could have.

  3. Just get OVER it already by BigLug · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't drive where I'm not supposed to.
    I don't drive over the speed limit (well, not much :)).
    I use the roads, but not all of them.
    I hate congested traffic.

    I can't see that the negatives possibly outweigh the positives. Steal my car and the police and I will just watch where you're going and intercept you. Hacker-turned-car-thief turns it off? You'll get pulled over by the police for not properly identifying your vehicle (just like a rego plate).

    My wife has only just got her licence. Imagine if when she's later home than she was going to be if I could just check her car position and realise that she's caught in traffic without having to make her answer her cell phone while driving!

    I phone the automobile club because I've broken down and they KNOW where I am because they have my rego.

    There's invasion of privacy, and there's useful technology ... PLEASE learn to spot the difference.

  4. Refresh me by Council · · Score: 1, Troll

    I work on cryptography and information theory, I read Bruce Schneier, I have secure passwords and am suspicious of everything. I dabble in paranoia, read things like Free Culture and 2600, and am generally anti-The-Man.

    That said, sometimes I can't really remember why I care if someone is gathering information on me. Sure, if a company or government monitors my browsing habits or watches where I drive, they can make ads targeted or develop a psychological profile, but what's the real downside? Why should I care if they know what I buy or where I drive? Sure, if I were running for office, it might help with a smear campaign, but other than that, what does it matter? And that's really the only example that comes to mind sometimes, Hoover threatening to release tapes of MLK having sex. But at that point, they're focusing on you as a public figure and breaking the law to gather particularly embarrassing information. For other stuff for the average Joe, what's the problem?

    I'm sure everyone has examples. Remind me why I care if they're gathering databases on where we drive or what we do or who we are.

    Seriously, remind me why I need privacy. I forget sometimes.

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  5. DUPE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    DUPE!!!