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BitComet Banned From Private Trackers

An anonymous reader writes "Slyck news is reporting that because BitComet does not recognize the 'private flag' on torrents originating from pirate BitTorrent trackers, this client is being banned from these communities. Private trackers are finding their torrents spread via the private DHT layer, allowing leechers to bypass ratios and download content freely."

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  1. Changing BitComet's User-Agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is there a way to change the 'user-agent' of bitcomet to make trackers think it's another client?

    1. Re:Changing BitComet's User-Agent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can never stop someone technically knowledgeable enough to mod the code themselves... if they are determined enough to be a dick, that is. The thing is, most people don't know how to do it, and most of those who do don't want to be dicks. What you have left is a small numbers of sociopathic fucks who aren't worth worrying about. If a client comes pre-modded for joe-numbnuts to ignore ratios... ban it.

      This method seems to work pretty well in keeping assholes to a minimum.

    2. Re:Changing BitComet's User-Agent by cheesee · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bug? Us hardcore leechers consider this a valuable feature

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  2. Re:with the what and the who and the what? by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slashdot article that reads like total gibberish? You must be new here.

  3. OK pretty much it's this by bobertfishbone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bittorrent private trackers are sites that depend on a healthy share ratio for success. If you download something, it's tracked, and you must then upload a comparable number in order to stay a member of that site or receive certain benefits of membership. This creates a healthy environment of seeders--not like many public trackers, which have an inordinate amount of leechers. Bitcomet doesn't recognize or follow the conventions that enable such private trackers to exist. It can bypass that, and enable anyone to download from a private tracker site without worrying about a ratio. This is extremely detrimental to the private tracker. I'm in favor of this move by the private trackers; Bitcomet is misrepresenting itself as a fully-functional BT client.

  4. Re:Pot? Meet Kettle. by CyricZ · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this strike anyone else as an ironic, considering that all the people that are downloading *aren't* the owners of the content to begin with?

    That's a very bold generalization to make. It is almost RIAA-esqe.

    There could very well be a family wishing to share a large collection of digital family videos that they have taken at holidays and birthdays, for instance. They want them to remain fairly private while sharing the content that they own.

    BitTorrent has many, many legitimate uses. It is completely incorrect to claim that all users who wish to limit the sharing of their data are pirates.

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  5. Re:So? by paulius_g · · Score: 5, Informative

    Azureus is the best for multi-platform.

    But for Windows, uTorrent is the best. It's small (115KB), uses not alot of RAM (~5mb) and has most of the features that Azureus has! It even has a bandwidth scheduling function.

  6. Another fact by springbox · · Score: 5, Funny
    BitComet does not recognize the 'private flag' on torrents originating from pirate BitTorrent trackers

    BitComet was also found to ignore the "evil bit."

  7. Re:with the what and the who and the what? by jpatters · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does anyone with a slashdot id under 5000 understand it?

    No.

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  8. Is this article just FUD? by mr_stinky_britches · · Score: 5, Informative

    What is the DHT Layer? I would consider myself as being torrent savvy, but I have no clue what this means.

    A little bit of research later...

    DHT stands for Distributed Hash Table ... DHT is a networking protocol that enhances the scalability and efficiency of decentralized networks by creating a virtual index rather than broadcasting search queries. Decentralized networks that utilized DHT technology are able to search and locate files significantly faster than networks that do not use it.
    source (non-authoritative): http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=772

    DHT is a layer added on top of the BitTorrent network to assist in Azureus' performance. BitTorrent is a distinct networking protocol, of which is specified by creator Bram Cohen. Anything existing outside of those specifications is not BitTorrent.

    source (non-authoritative): http://www.unitethecows.com/forums/showthread.php? t=10991
    (So DHT is not part of the bittorrent specification; At least, it wasn't in May 2005, but who knows now...)

    So basically, my understanding now is that the DHT Layer is what allows for the decentralization of torrents. Thus, by not respecting the "private" flag, the clients can leech all day without it affecting their ratio. Slap me if I am wrong or missing something, but aren't most (re:99.999%) of these "communities" that care about leechers, ratios, and keeping their torrents to themselves going to be trading/torrenting copyrighted content/material? Call me crazy, but I just have this hunch that this isn't exactly the latest Knoppix torrent. And then you can call me crazy again, but I must ask why we care what these "communities" ban or don't ban?

    But then again, this is slashdot where anything that approaches conservative or rational gets modded down by the mob.

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  9. Re:In English? by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 5, Informative

    DHT = "Trackerless". The P2P traffic is not managed by the tracker, like it normally is, but by the clients. This enables faster transfer, but interferes with the tracker's ability to manage piece distribution.

    Private = "Tracker only". Well-behaved clients see the private tag and ignore trackerless requests. Usually for sites that have download ratios or other mthods that force users to upload a certain amount of content in order to continue to download.

    The problem with using DHT on a private torrent is that the data in the torrent file you download that identifies who you are (for your account ratio) gets passed to other users. That screws up your ratio because others are downloading with your account info. You can very quickly find yourself below the enforced limit if you don't disable DHT.

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  10. In other words: Private Trackers ban themselves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the bittorrent stats seem by my mldonkey bittorrent client for the last month(non-stop)

    According to this they are banning 60% of bittorrent traffic... not a intelligent move IMHO.

    BitTorrent Total Uptime: 29 days, 20h:10m 2578216 seconds
    Brand Seen
    Total 88212 (100%)
    BitComet 52601 (60%)
    BitLord 30318 (34%)
    Azureus 2392 (3%)
    Mainline 839 (1%)
    BitTornado 466 (1%)
    MLdonkey 433 (0%)
    ABC 345 (0%)
    uTorrent 334 (0%)
    Shareaza 206 (0%)

  11. Re:with the what and the who and the what? by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, elitism and ignorance in the same post. You have been here a long time!

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  12. Watch what I do here by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least give downloading Linux distributions as an example. The one you gave was tortured so effectively I have to wonder if you work for the White House.

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  13. Re:Pot? Meet Kettle. by FreakyGeeky · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe the video-trading family example is weak. I'll offer you a real example instead: Mandrake Club. Mandrake Club members pay an annual fee for access to expanded versions of the Mandrake distribution. This depends on the level (read: cost) of your membership. In all cases, the content that members can download is different from the freely-available Mandrake content. Now, why would Mandrake or its club members want non-members using their private bittorrent distrubution method? In this case, they certainly own the content.

  14. Re:Pot? Meet Kettle. by mph · · Score: 5, Funny
    There could very well be a family wishing to share a large collection of digital family videos that they have taken at holidays and birthdays, for instance. They want them to remain fairly private while sharing the content that they own.
    What kind of family worries about "leechers bypassing ratios"?

    "Grandma, we love you, but it's about time you seed some vids of your own!"

  15. Re:private/pirate by heinousjay · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sometimes the jokes just right themselves

    And just as often, they wrong others.

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  16. Priceless. by Ph33r+th3+g(O)at · · Score: 5, Funny

    Peer-to-peer sharers thwarted in their ability to control who participates in sharing by a peer-to-peer protocol.

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  17. Re:with the what and the who and the what? by Otter · · Score: 5, Informative
    Now that you've been chastised by the youngster, I'd like to step in with the old-school analogy you're looking for:

    Remember how back in the olden days FTP servers allowed w4r3z site admins to set minimum upload:download ratios for users? Imagine if someone created a client that evaded those limits and the ftpd maintainers, who were shocked -- shocked! -- to find that w4r3z kiddies lack integrity and respect for the rights of others, locked it out.

    That seems to be what happened here, except with some newfangled file transfer protocol that these lousy kids today use.

  18. Re:One slip... by narcc · · Score: 5, Funny

    A Freudian Slip is when you say one thing, but mean your mother...