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Torvalds Says 'Use KDE'
An anonymous reader writes "Without tip-toeing around the matter, Linus Torvalds made his preference in the GNOME vs. KDE matter quite clear on the GNOME-usability list: "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE. This 'users are idiots, and are confused by functionality' mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since reached the point where it simply doesn't do what I need it to do. Please, just tell people to use KDE." Also, "Gnome seems to be developed by interface nazis, where consistently the excuse for not doing something is not 'it's too complicated to do', but 'it would confuse users'.""
This reminds me of the hoopla that surrounded Patrick Volkerding's decision to drop GNOME from Slackware Linux. Now, Patrick is followed by Linus. Frankly, even though these are personal choices, it's really bad PR for GNOME. I think they need to get their act back together, pronto.
As an aside, I hate both GNOME and KDE. I use XFCE or fluxbox exclusively on the machines I use. That does not prevent me from using the best applications and fluxbox in particular is a major productivity booster.
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I would say exactly the opposite about the two. I have no explanation for why Torvalds would prefer KDE. Who cares what Torvalds uses, anyway?
You should not assumptions about how long I have been around free software. I have been using it since RMS released GNU/Emacs in 1988, gcc in 1989, and used GNU/Linux for the first time in 1995. I am right on about Torvalds.
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Why are people still whining about KDE vs. Gnome? I found the ultimate solution to all my Linux interface issues a long time ago and I haven't had to worry about all this KDE vs. Gnome nonsense since.
Why is there always someone who feels the need to point out the right of someone to say someting? Is there someone being silenced here? Is there someone even suggesting that another person doesn't have the right to say something. Sheesh. Shut the fuck up already.
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I personally think Mr. Linus Trovalds should shut the fuck up and get back to the Kernel mailing lists. What the fuck gives him authority to go into a Desktop List saying what and what not should be done?. And moreover there is no fucking way he has any authority on the DESKTOP USUABILITY aspects of a graphical desktop environment?.
For the love of god, he is just a OS nucleus developer, he has no freaking sense about graphical interfaces. He should just stick patching and maintaining the kernel and leave the task of graph. interface design to others.
Having said that, I still dont understand what is the newsworthy part of some buddy's preferences of graphical desktop environment. I do not care if it happens to be the Linux, FreeBSD, Apple or even MS Windows lead kernel programmer... none of them have any authority on the USER INTERFACE... shees KDE & GNOME run on the top of X-Window which can run on the top of a BSD, Unix, Linux and OSX kernel...
Anyone got my point?
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90% of the people that use KDE have fallen under the stupid spell that having 20 half-arsed features is better than one feature that is both to the point and works. KDE is like having super hard shoes with a quality hatch at the bottom of the car and Gnome is like having a car with brakes.
In Gnome, when you change your desktop's appearance, it changes immediately. KDE gives you a bazillion options with a preview that is not nearly so effective. This is an enormously difficult problem to solve and Gnome did it, but KDE did not.
Similarly, Gnome's control panel for its desktop is clear and covers the basics. KDE's control panel is an unorganized bunch of slop, a bunch of directors without a script throwing things into a play, and what you see is the nauseum of what you get.
And, do I even have to mention how childish KDE is with their gay "K*" naming convention? Last time I checked, there are far more letters in the Alphabet than K. It makes the whole desktop look, well, stupid. "Konquerer" as a web browser. These guys can't even spell and they are going to "Konquer". Come on.
Losers.
The KDE team should focus on enhancing KDevelop and let the Gnome people handle the user experience.
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KDE definately has it's act together better than GNOME, but I still tend to use GNOME. For various reasons, projects outside the KDE/Gnome communities prefer to support Gnome in preference to KDE. For instance Mozilla, OpenOffice, Java SWT.