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It's "1984" in Europe, What About Your Country?

An anonymous reader asks: "A few hours ago, the European parliament accepted a proposal '...on the retention of data processed in connection with the provision of public electronic communication services...'. Summarized: any data (internet connections, traffic, email, file sharing, SMS, phone calls) of 450 million people of Europe has to be collected by telcos, to be used by governments in their fight against 'crime and terrorism' ... oh, and child porn, of course. In Germany, over-the-sea reports are limited and usually do not include the latest developments in law and order, but since Slashdot has readers all over the world, I would like to ask: how is the status of YOUR country in terms of anti-terrorism-laws, observations and such? Any recommendations where one can still live free and unobserved in a non-nanny state?"

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  1. The federalists were wrong by caitsith01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Unfortunately, the federalists were wrong.

    Here in Australia our constitution was based on the very principle you refer to and includes no individual rights other than freedom of religion and the right to a trial in relation to certain types of offence. To this day a bill of rights is opposed, mainly be conservative politicians, because "we couldn't list all of our freedoms" and "it would be unneccessary" and so on.

    Sadly, we have recently seen wave after wave of terrible, terrible legislation encroaching on the lives and freedoms of ordinary, innocent people. Refugees are treated like criminals rather than people who are likely to be seeking shelter and are detained in appalling conditions in the desert or on remote islands, potentially indefinitely. The original inhabitants of this country are marginalised and ignored. More fundamentally, every Australian is now subject to arbitrary and relatively unchecked laws relating to 'terrorism' which allow for extended periods of detention without trial and without a warrant. These laws are enthusiastically promoted by the police and security agencies. Australia has one of the highest rates of phone-tapping in the world, and also retains ridiculous sedition laws essentially making it illegal to criticise the government too strongly.

    We have it worse than the US - at least you have SOME protected rights. We have none, and in times like these that means we are gradually losing them all. A bill of rights is essential in protecting basic freedoms, which are not inherent characteristics but human constructions and therefore must be protected by humans.

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  2. Re:there are relationships though by tob · · Score: 5, Informative

    Republic (res publica) and democracy (demos kratos) just mean the same thing. The one coming from latin, the other from ancient greek.

    The inferred difference as if republic means a representative system and democracy a direct system is not something I ever heard before.

    In ancient greece they did have direct democracies in some states for some time. At other times they had elected officials and still called it a democracy.

    In Europe the difference between a republic and a not-republic is whether you have a president or a monarch. In .nl (as in many european countries) we have a monarch (queen) and republicans are those who'd rather have her and her family retire to somewhere else.

    These monarchies are still governed by democratically elected officials, and we still call them democracies, as we do republics like france and germany.

    Regards,
    Tob