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S. Korea Cloning Success Faked?

minus_273 writes "The BBC is reporting that it appears that the human cloning in Korea might have been faked." From the article: "At least nine of 11 stem cell colonies used in a landmark research paper by Dr Hwang Woo-suk were faked, said Roh Sung-il, who collaborated on the paper. Dr Hwang has agreed to ask the US journal Science to withdraw his paper on stem cell cloning, Mr Roh said ... Last month, Dr Hwang resigned from his main post as head of the World Stem Cell Hub, after it emerged that some of the eggs used in his research were donated by his staff - in contravention of international guidelines. Now it is some of the research itself which is being called into question."

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  1. How do you know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    How do you tell the FAKE clones apart from the REAL clones? Dont they all look alike???

    1. Re:How do you know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The evil one has scratches on its face. That, or a goatee.

    2. Re:How do you know? by damsa · · Score: 5, Funny

      The clone doesn't have a belly button.

  2. More informative link by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Informative
    http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8461

    But questions over his data only surfaced last week, when Hwang told Science that the 2005 paper contains four instances in which the same photographs were mistakenly used to represent cells cloned from different patients.

    In one case, one of two duplicated photographs is enlarged relative to the other.

    In a second, one of two duplicated pictures is distorted by being enlarged to different extents along its horizontal and vertical axes, Science has confirmed. "This is a level of error beyond sending the wrong file," says Robert Lanza, who leads a rival cloning group at Advanced Cell Technology in Worcester, Massachusetts.

    Now questions are also being asked about DNA fingerprint plots in the paper. The plots were presented to demonstrate a match between nuclear DNA from the donors and the cells cloned from them. So they should look similar, with peaks at the same points. But a South Korean blog pointed out last week that in at least five of the matched plots, the peaks are also strikingly similar in shape and size - more so than would usually be expected if they came from different cells.
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    No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?
  3. I don't beleive anything anymore by abes · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm beginning to question whether Korea even really exists..

    Oh the (cloned) humanity of it all..

  4. Looks as though ... by paulxnuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    when someone asks "Woo-suk" in Korea, the answer is going to be "Dr Hwang"

  5. Isaac Asimov's dream must wait a while longer by StefanJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Oh give me a clone
      Of my own flesh and bone
      With the Y chromosome changed to X.

      And when I'm alone
      With my own little clone
      We'll think of nothing but sex."

  6. Re:A blow for science by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Even if the paper was not faked, criticism will come from all sides, with questions ranging from the ethical standards/morality of scientists to the usefulness of the peer review process."

    Why is this a bad thing?

    Asking questions and challenging the status quo are the very foundations of science.

    And if those ethical questions come up, why is that a problem? Or do you think ethical concerns should be swept under the rug?

    Re: the peer review process, this is exactly what peer review is intended to do. Under peer review, the study results are not holding up. This is just an example of peer review working exactly as it should.

    The problem, IMO, is that too many people take as truth that which hasn't been confirmed.

    --
    "Trolls they were, but filled with the evil will of their master: a fell race..." -- J.R.R. Tolkien on Olog-hai