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IE And Mozz Collaborate On RSS Icon
sylverboss writes "The Microsoft Team RSS blog is reporting that IE7 is adopting the RSS icon used in Firefox. They all agreed that it's in the user's best interest to have one common icon to represent RSS and RSS-related features in a browser.
The increasing collaborative efforts between the browser vendors in the last few weeks is an honest attempt to create a standard Web interface for everyone, no matter what browser is used."
Collaberating on a 32x32 (if that) bitmap? Call me a cynic, but I don't give a flying fudge. IE needs to actually adopt features that matter. You know, proper CSS implementation comes to mind... This seems like an instance for Microsoft to say "Hey look, we cooperate! I mean goddamn...that's a nice icon!"
Don't get me wrong, I think it's good that they're collaberating, but call me when they cooperate on something functional.
Ride the skies
Microsoft have positioned Internet Explorer as a way of writing in-house applications for years. They support all kinds of quirks and non-standard behaviour like HTAs etc that Gecko, KHTML, etc don't have to.
It's more than pride stopping Microsoft from switching to Gecko; all their big customers who've bought into their marketing and built in-house applications that require this stuff would scream bloody murder if the rug was pulled out from under them.
In order to let Internet Explorer die, they'd have to transition these customers to something else. The two main contenders are XAML and XUL. XAML isn't quite ready yet, and Microsoft won't undermine it by switching their customers to XUL, will they?
You have to understand that Longhorn was supposed to be done by now. These customers should already be switching in mass numbers. But Longhorn has been delayed for so long that Microsoft's strategy has hit a roadblock because Internet Explorer isn't cutting the mustard any more, and people are looking at alternatives like XUL.
Bogtha Bogtha Bogtha
You know, I wish when I story was rejected, you could see who was the person who rejected it.
2005-12-15 16:29:46 Standarized RSS Icon For Mozilla and IE 7 (Developers,Mozilla) (rejected)
Executive ability is deciding quickly and getting someone else to do the work. --John G. Pollard
Obviously you've never had to do the trick of using IE's icon for the Firefox shortcut on someone else's computer because they just don't understand web pages without clicking on that big blue e.
Woah. I love tabs. I just don't like them blank.
Was it a firefox issue? Did you test the same sites with firefox on other machines?
Of course it's a Firefox issue. That's self evident if you drop your defensive knee-jerking for a minute. If you install software and it doesn't work, it is, by definition, that software that is the problem. Perhaps it's understandable that FF has problems given the sorry nature of Windows networking, but that doesn't change the fact that I, and others, have had problems with Firefox on machines where IE works fine. Part of writing software is working around problems with the OS you're targeting. Everybody knows that but OSS people, who regularly project their faults on the OS in lieu of QC. The bottom line is IE works on every machine I have, but FF has occasional problems on most every machine I use, from linux to windows.
It seems like you have a nasty habit of externalizing your own character flaws into the outside world.
Damn. You're either the world's greatest psychologist or the worst hypocrite. You may be projecting the projecting, chief. I just uninstalled it. You're psychoanalysing it. Which one of us has the issue? I don't care that FF sucked for me. I have nothing invested in OSS or commericial software. I was just telling what happened to me. However, I do appreciate it every time somebody from /. decides to read my fortune from one paragraph I write about a fucking html browser. Listen: not everybody has their identity caught up in the software they choose to use. So when I insult the guys who spend countless hours developing FF without compensation and only manage to produce something of comparable bloatness and bugginess to IE, I mention this fact with a detachment that is probably hard for some people here to understand. Don't mistake the extremity of my position for passion about the cause. I really don't care if FF fails or succeeds. I do, however, find mild amusement in calling BS when I see it. And the idea that FF is god's answer to the browser is wrong both in premise and in fact.
I suggested the FF guys were arrogant not because I'm sure I'm right, but because they didn't even bother to find out either way. No respectable company would act that way. There were more than a few of us who were submitting bugs about pages not loading, and we were all dismissed out of hand since there are, evidently, millions of downloads without problems. Intellectually honest developers would at least be curious about the issue. The FF guys were almost reactionary with their dismissal. I thought I was helping them with their project, but I was treated like a guy taking a shit in the middle of a party. It was pretty enlightening to me about their mindset, and I thought it would be interesting for people here. Or at least the ones with some objectivity left.
Anyway, this only makes me arrogant if I'm wrong. And it only makes me obsessed if I think about this for more than a minute after hitting "submit." And believe me, I don't. I argue about software for the same reason most people argue about sports. It fun to do when there's nothing else to do.