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France to Legalize File Sharing

quenting writes "In the debate around the anti-piracy bill, the French Parliament voted yesterday into law an amendment to the DADVSI bill that allows free sharing of music and movies over the internet, considering the downloaded files as a private copy. This decision goes against the French government and the music industry's recommendations, who argue the deputies only wanted to show their independence from the government. The initial bill's detractors who pushed for this amendment want a tax for author rights to be paid by everyone on the ISP fees." The French government has vowed to fight this decision (babelfish link).

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  1. Bad idea... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This could set precedent to undermine copyright as a whole. In which case, I predict we'll start seeing things like proprietary derivatives of GPL software emerge and not get challenged.

    Unless a new paradigm for duplication and distribution of digital works is created, we need copyright to be enforced in all cases in order to protect free software.

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  2. Re:France are weird by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That was supposed to be:

    French Government Lobbied to Ban Free Software and
    France about to get worst copyright law in Europe? but then this! I just don't know whether to hug or punch them!

    (Slipped and hit submit instead of preview :( )

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  3. Contradicting News... by stupid_is · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Register is running a different story:

    Individuals in France who ignore copyright by downloading illegal music files will also be subject to a harsher "graduated" enforcement procedure, according to Agence France Presse.

    If uploaders keep ignoring warnings, they can be put on trial. A new anti piracy bill that is being examined by French MPs would also allow record companies to include technical measures to stop users from directly making copies.

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  4. Re:I hereby suspend my France-Bashing for 24 hours by mmalove · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "About time someone gives the recording industry the middle finger" ..... Ok, while I agree with the statement, a 5 - Insightful?!?! ..... There seems to be a growing trend that you can do anything legally as long as you live in the right country at the time : abortion, file sharing, pot smoking, drinking under 21, euthanasia - all legal but in differing countries. Oh, and none of them in the self proclaimed land of the free.

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  5. Re:I hereby suspend my France-Bashing for 24 hours by ndtechnologies · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah, I've been trying to give them the finger for over 3 years now, but I guess it hasn't done any good! The funny thing is, File-Sharing can be a great tool for the distribution of music. It's just a matter of utilizing it in a way that will allow both the artist and the listener to benefit from it.

    With our online music store, we are going to be utilizing BitTorrent technology for the distribution of some of our music.

    About 2 years ago, there was a Music Industry meeting here in Nashville, and the President of Sony Music Nashville was quoted as saying "our biggest mistake was shutting down Napster", now take that for what it's worth, but it does say something.

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  6. Re:Am I allowed to do so with every other product? by Skye16 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First, I don't disagree with anything you said. However, I have a hypothetical situation.

    Let's say we somehow manage to produce replicators, a la Star Trek. Now we suddnely CAN create duplicates of sugar or duplicates of cars.

    Should we be stopped from doing that? Should it be illegal?

    I'm just curious. The probability of ever being able to replicate something like that is probably right around the probability of me becoming Emperor of the Universe. But, if it were possible, what are the legal ramifications? Would Ford be right in saying "you can't put the [quantum representation schematics] (or whatever they'd be) into your replication device"? Or would you say "you know what? fuck you. i bought the car, it's mine, and i'm doing with it as i wish."

  7. Ah, the further Socialization of entertainment. by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So, they propose collecting a tax from French citizens to offset the income that musicians and their businesses will lose once there's no limit on freely distributing those musicians' works. So, where do you supposed the French government will send the checks to British, or American, or Italian musicians? Will the National Symphony Orchestra in DC be getting some of their income, now, from French taxpayers who only like listening to Eurotrash Disco Remixes? Will urban Parisians have to subisdize the production of Morroccan ex-patriate class-warfare Islamo-rap?

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  8. Media should be free by gamer4Life · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This would save so much money paid to lawyers. The media industry was created through the advancement of technology (reproduceable media), and now that technoogy has advanced further, they are trying to stop the natural progression.

    Artists can still make alot of money by performing in concerts, where people will still pay alot more to see them perform live. Movies can still play in theatres where people will want to see the big screen and hear the big sound. The only areas where they will suffer are in the CDs and DVD market.

    Sure there will be some pain (to the RIAA and MPAA), but the economy will adjust, and a new business model will arise.

  9. Re:I hereby suspend my France-Bashing for 24 hours by wonko_el_sano · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even if this fee were mandatory (which it's not) it's no different than the 'fee' you pay when you go to a restaurant that plays music. Regardless of whether you listen or not, the restaurant still has to pay a fee to a PRO (Performance Rights Organization) and they pass the bill onto you.

    To me it makes sense that the laws that govern the distribution of music through the air waves be similar to the laws that govern music through the ethernet.

  10. Re:Mod parent troll by Darkman,+Walkin+Dude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did the French sell them chemical weapons? Is that why Dubyaw was so sure he would find WMD in Iraq, he still had the receipts?

    campaign to outlaw the use of English words in french advertising

    What do you care, I thought you were american, not english...

    France and the french (yeah, I've been there several times on business) are a bunch of snobs

    I think you'll find that people everywhere are less than pleasant when you start acting as though you have some natural advantage purely by dint of being american. Now I realise I'm making an assumption here, but based on your previous diatribes, I'd feel fairly confident putting money on it.

    responsible for their own reputation

    People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, buddy.

  11. Taxed Instead by jtwJGuevara · · Score: 2, Interesting
    . The initial bill's detractors who pushed for this amendment want a tax for author rights to be paid by everyone on the ISP fees.

    If this happened in America I would have a shitfit. As someone who is online frequently but does not trade music or swap files online, I couldn't fathom the government taxing me through the service I use on the pretense that I might optionally do something the service allows, in this case sharing files that are copyrighted by others.

    Then again, I'm willing to wager the American government is already doing something similar to me through another commercial service that I'm not aware of at the moment.

  12. Is P2P private? by trollable · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Every one is focusing on the tax, payment and copying. But there is nothing new there. Tax is already collected for CD and tapes, rights are already payed by radios, ... and you have the right for private copies. Nothing new here, every thing is already working. The real question is: Is P2P a private copy? If yes (as stated by the vote), then there is no more restriction to share (privately and so non-commercialy) but a tax is collected. Side note: the fact there is a tax is mainly because of the inability to trade rights at the individual level. An "ideal" system would be to pay each time you listen a song, for example $0.01. That would lower the entry price a lot. Additionaly, every thing should be promoted to the public domain in a reasonnable time frame.

  13. No, the cat does not "got my tongue." by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > The initial bill's detractors who pushed for this
    > amendment want a tax for author rights to be paid
    > by everyone on the ISP fees.

    Lovely. So we get the choice of a tax everyone pays whether stealing music or not, or legalizing stealing music.

    Stupid 1 or stupid 2.

    Sigh.

    This is why nobody should have power, ever.

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  14. Re:Am I allowed to do so with every other product? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    This post is insightful? You don't explain WHY it is/would be wrong to reprint things. IMHO there is not good reason. Except that there are some currently corporate entities who actually make money buy some invented law system called copyright. It is just the way the system currently works, it may as well be changed in due time.