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Earbud Headphones May Cause Hearing Loss

benr writes "According to an AP report, the earbud headphones that are so popular for ipods and other portable devices may lead to hearing loss. From the article: "The big culprits aren't the devices themselves, but the tiny 'ear bud' style headphones that the music players use. 'Unfortunately, the earbuds are even more likely to cause hearing loss than the muff-type earphones that were used on Walkman and portable CD players'""

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  1. We're turning into a nation of deaf people by yog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is hardly news; for years, headphones have been known to cause hearing loss, and ear buds are merely the extreme expression of this kind of problem. Recently in September 2005 there was a flurry of articles about this issue, according to a quick google search.

    There's evidence of a general decline in hearing sensitivity in movie theatres and airplanes. The intensity of airplane overhead speaker volume has recently become almost painful to my ears, and it seems to be consistent across different airlines. Movie theatres as well have cranked up the volume. I find myself covering my ears during the previews, which tend to have intense, compressed action with a lot of music and narrative to pump up the adrenaline. Generally when the main feature begins the sound volume settles down a bit but it can still be worrisomely loud.

    I am worried that we in the U.S. are becoming a nation of half-deaf electronic addicts, cranking our headsets and PA systems ever louder to compensate, perhaps unknowingly, for our diminishing sensitivity to sound.

    I only hope that ENT doctors and researchers continue to find ways to repair the ear's mechanisms and perhaps develop nerve repair techniques or we're gonna have a huge population of elderly deaf people 50 years from now (with commensurate increase in volume of PA systems etc.).

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    1. Re:We're turning into a nation of deaf people by advocate_one · · Score: 3, Insightful
      back in my old tape deck days, pre-CD... I used a Compander in conjunction with my tape deck... I compressed when recording, and decompressed on playback... this was a means to get around the dynamic range limitations of tape.

      What hacks me off these days, is the sudden increase in perceived volume when an advert or similar break occurs during a television show... it's so blatant, yet they keep denying there's anything happening. I have to turn the volume down quite some way, and then remember to turn it back up when the program continues...

      in fact, lately, I've started using the Mute during the breaks... which means those advertisers have shot themselves in the foot as I'm not hearing the message.

      yes, I know, I could get a "tivo" type machine or even build my own, but I watch telly so infrequently these days it's not worth the bother. I get any shows I'm really interested in off the intarweb... and if I'm really impressed, I go and buy the DVDs

      But what really really gets my Goat is those bl00dy anti-priracy messages on the DVDs I can't get round... I'm not the one whose pirating the bloody thing, I've actually gone out and bought it, so why the heck am I being forced to watch an anti-piracy message???

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  2. well... by jolande · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... and they are also very uncomfortable.

  3. Common sense by brain+defrag · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This issue basically boils down to common sense. If you listen to your music at excessively high volume, you will eventually suffer hearing loss. People also need to realize that their hearing adapts to different sound levels. European iPods ship with a volume limiter for this reason.

  4. Re:when it's too loud you are too old by skeptictank · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No matter how loud you can crank your stereo, several months of a crying baby in your house will make you appreciate the little bit of the quiet time you get.

  5. Re:Slashdot writeup missed the point by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Obviously if you listen to music that doesn't suck so bad that you have to distort it to pieces to stand listening to it, you won't have this problem.

    You can listen to the Beatles loudly. You can listen to Queen loudly. You can listen to anything loudly, and people do. It's not just the top 40 crap that's on those MP3 players, you know.

    I really don't see the point you're trying to make with that statement.

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  6. As a note, hearing damage is [generally] permanent by jschottm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone who works in the live audio industry, it pains me to see the people who stand directly in front of the speakers with no protection. Hearing loss is permanent and unpleasant. It's not something that just comes back.

    Flying the other day, the guy sitting two seats across from me had his iPod turned up so loud that I could hear the drum rolls clearly, despite having 27dB drop earplugs in. For comparison's sake, when I listened (without the earplugs) to music for a little while when I worked on some code, I used a pair of Sony cheapie headphones. Held six inches from me, I couldn't hear the music above the noise of the airplane (again, without the earplugs).

    The use of loud audio sources, both with portable audio devices and cell phones (I can often hear the sending side of a cell phone conversation from 15 feet away) is going to cause significant damage to the hearing of the "with it" generation.

    For those curious why people are so intent on damaging their hearing, I'll give two facts:

    1. People associate louder sound as being more impressive.

    2. (partially related to 1) People perceive louder sound differently than softer sound. Our hearing system changes its frequency response based on how loud the source is, refered to as the Fletcher-Munson Curve(s).

    The bottom line? Be aware of how loud you're listening to audio sources and protect yourself. Tinnitus is horrible (ringing in the ears), but it's also common to suffer damage in the 3-6 KHz range, where much of the understandability of speech is, leading to the situation of being able to hear but not make out what someone is saying. Turn down your cell phone and personal audio device, as well as your car stereo. If you're curious just how loud the audio in you life is, an SPL meter can easily be aquired at your local Rat Shack or online source. You might be surprised.

  7. Re:I've proven this... by GMC-jimmy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think the real culprit here is improper Volume (loudness) settings and not headphones/earbuds.

    I have some real nice Princess Leia style headphones, and even though they totally surround the ear, I never set the volume so high that I can't hear someone speak to me with a normal tone of voice. Hearing loss runs in my family, so keeping a reasonable Volume setting is very important to me.

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  8. A good volume by Merkuri22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My rule for volume was that if somebody standing near me can hear it, even if it's just a quiet hum or just the beat, it's too loud. Every once and a while my boyfriend tells me he hears voices, which is his way of telling me to turn down my audiobook's volume.

  9. Re:Lol, I am exactly the reverse by BoomerSooner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have to disagree. I have some serious hearing loss due to listening to handheld music devices for most of my life. The nice incessent ringing in the background is a joy. Plus saying, "What did you say" about 100 times a week is rather bothersome. The worst part is the inability to hear when you're in a place with a lot of background noise. For example you cannot have a conversation in a restaurant without the people with you speaking very loudly. Not to mention people are always saying "tone it down" since I speak normally with an elevated level to hear myself (not intentionally).

    Hearing loss is horrible, don't fuck with it.

  10. Real Earplugs... by BearJ · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Let me just second this. I do a lot of work in bars and other loud places. I used to use those disposable foamy deals. They have a horrible frequency response, so you never really hear what's going on that well. They also irritated my ears after awhile. I shelled out for molded earplugs with proper filters in them. They are amazing!

    First off, because they are custom molded to my ear, they don't put pressure on the ear canal in order to stay in place. Much more comfortable. The coolest thing is how they work though. When I first tried them on, I thought they weren't working very well. I could still hear everything just fine. It was rather odd. However, after wearing them a few times in high noise situations, I noticed something. When I left the noise...my ears weren't ringing. And that's the best part. I can hear everything and it sounds normal, and yet my ears are protected. Give 'em a try. Yes, they are expensive But they're protecting something you can't get back once you lose.

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  11. Re:I've proven this... by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All headphones suck. Do you really need preprogrammed entertainment piped into your sensory organs 24 hours a day? Listen to the music you find around you, don't cut yourself off from the world.

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  12. Common sense hearing protection by shagmasterflex22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with headphones, ear-buds and In-Ear Monitors is exactly that we've blocked out the world around us. Our brains use environmental queues to help warn us when something we hear is too loud - before the onset of physical pain. The brain can determine how loud somthing is based on how the sound interacts with the space we're in. The brain uses similar methods to determine which direction a sound is coming from. Our insticts kick in when it gets too loud and we want to stick our fingers in our ears, even though we don't because we'll look "too old."

    Another issue (which doesn't seem to have been brought up yet) is duration of exposure. I don't recall the exact figures (ask OSHA), but the idea is this: your ears can only do so much work in a given period of time. Loud noises work your ears more than soft ones, but sustained moderate-volume noises can work your ears as much if not more than loud noises. Once your ears pass their "working" threshold, you will start to damage them. Every time you leave a loud environment (like when the Who is in town) and you notice your ears ringing, you're noticing new permanent hearing damage.

    As we age, our ears gradually sustain more permanent damage. Contrary to what many believe, there is currently no way to repair or reverse hearing damage, only ways to work with it. Hearing aids simply amplify noises we can no longer detect (thereby hastening further damage) and cochlear implants effectively replace the natural inner ear mechanism with an artificial one which while allowing the person to hear again probably doesn't sound as "right" as the original did.

    In addition to loudness, other factors can contribute to hearing loss. Cigarrette smoke, alcohol, poor diet, poor sleeping habits, and CAFFEINE all increase a person's risk for hearing loss.

    I started playing the drums when I was 10 years old, and I didn't wear earplugs regularly until my early twenties when I was studying audio engineering at Berklee College of Music. I suffer from tinitus (cronic ringing of the ears) and I've found that in addition to a good diet and plenty of water, the best way to reduce the ringing is to avoid caffeine, consume alcohol only moderately, and avoid smoky environments. I've also found that if I know I'm going to be in a loud environment (like a concert, seminar, party, etc), I can protect my ears by maintaining a softer environment for the rest of the day - ie, not listening to loud music, wearing earplugs when I'm walking down a city street or on the subway or in the car, etc.

    I think everyone who has concerns about their hearing could benifit from this.