Humans First Arose in Asia?

IZ Reloaded writes "Two archaeologists are proposing the idea that early humans first arose in Asia instead of Africa as previously thought. These early humans then migrate out of Asia to parts of the world. From National Geographic: 'The unresolved status of the intriguing Flores finds attributed to H. floresiensis leaves open the possibility that this species is the end result and last survivor of an ancient migration of very primitive humans, or even prehumans, that formerly existed more widely across Asia ... '"

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On the first day..

[Ckwop]

Really? I thought the Intelligent Designer (who we wont name because that would show us up for who we are; fundie idiots) blinked the world in to existance in a single instant. I mean life is too complicated to arise by chance, right? I just don't want to believe I'm related to an animal renound for picking shit out of it's ass. Man was created by God and that's that, these scientist don't know anything.

As a race we need to grow up. The search for truth can lead to only one place and that place is a place without God. In 400 years science has brought us further than the thousands of years of religious dogma before it. My message is simple: Embrace science, reject religion and it's false promises. The afterlife is a lie. When you die that is it, you're dead. Rather than living your life through your own self-interest trying to get in to a heavenly place that does not exist I just ask that you embrace those around you, talk to other people, help each other out and in that spirit we can all make the world a little nicer.

On the first day, man created God and he was pleased with what he'd achieved. On the second day, man worshiped God and life was good. On the third day, different men had different ideas about God and their cultures diverged. On the fourth day, men spilt blood over these differences and it has been this way ever since.

Simon.

Re:On the first day..

[HAMgeek]

...in times where science would say to you "Hey man, you're 100% screwed!" religion can give a more optimistic answer. It's easy to decry religion when you're sitting in front of your LCD or CRT, but it's can give hope to the otherwise hopeless...

Case in point... You wont find many atheists huddled in foxholes. Times like that tend to induce prayer.

Besides, which is better, to be a believer (pick your religion) and upon your death find out you were wrong, or to be an atheist and find out you were wrong? If the believer turns out to be wrong, that's it. Game over... [S]he'll never know the difference. However, if the atheist turns out to be wrong... Well, there are two schools of thought among Christians. Most believe hell is a place of eternal flames where you suffer for the rest of eternity. Others, believe that hell is the total destruction of the soul. That those who do not believe are cast into the lake of fire where they cease to exist. No eternal suffering. Just oblivion. Even though that's better than eternal suffering, it's still a pretty bad thing once you've found out that you could have had eternal life if you'd only believed.

Re:On the first day..

[complete loony]

I've never understood you big bang theorists, you say you can explain the complete history of everything as small gradual changes. Yet, you're happy to believe that all the energy and entropy in the universe came out of nowhere.

Re:On the first day..

[HAMgeek]

Check out Darwin on Trial by Phillip Johnson

Re:On the first day..

[HAMgeek]

...all that proves is that people are weak...

I never said that it proves the existence of God. What I was saying is that belief in a greater power usually gives people strength. It allows them to endure things that they might not otherwise be able to handle. This is most definitely not weakness.

...torture is not very useful...strap George W Bush down and start pulling out his fingernails etc. you'll get him to admit he worships Satan...

Hmmm... you seem to be trying to use a thinly veiled acusation that W supports torture. In so doing you're making the same "mistake" Darwinists acuse the supporters of intelligent design of making. You're making an asumption of truth with absolutely no evidence. And don't even think about bringing up Abu Graib. There are people who would pay $$$ to be treated like that. Add to that the terrorist training manuals that have been found, which contain instructions to make up stories of torture and other mistreatment if you get captured and you totally destroy any credibility on the part of the tales of rampant prisoner abuse floating around in the Bush hating media.

Ah, the Pascal "choice". You really want to tell God on judgement day that you "believed" in him just in case?

Pascal's Wager, which another post was so kind to remind me of, is merely a risk/reward analysis that makes no assumptions in and of itself about wether or not God exists. Pascal was looking at the matter of religion from the point of view of a mathmatician. I on the other hand believe because of what I see around me every day. Intelligent design is much more logical to me than any other alternative.

It doesn't matter...

[physman_wiu]

Well we could all find out what part of the world we originated in, but that doesn't matter. The fact is that European culture -Western culture- has spread so much across this globe that it doesn't matter if we were all once black, white, or Asian. Europeans did a good thing to the world by introducing diseases that killed nearly all of the native population that the came in contact with. Yay small pox! Now lets see, the Chinese develop gun powder, and then use it for what??? Oh yeah fireworks, it took the Europeans to first think of a way to use this for killing people. Hmm, maybe China has started to learn something, look at their current political stance. "Let's try to run the world, since we fucked it up 50,000 years ago."

I've lived in Asia for about the past 2 1/2 years now, and have come to notice that whenever I try to discuss the differences between Western and Eastern culture, I usually get the phrase "Our culture is older than yours. " thrown into my face. And they say Westerners have egos?? I think this will just add more fuel to the fire-the Chinese will believe once again that they are the superior race and commit genocide against all others. Well maybe they won't go that far but the point still remains the same. Just live here a while and you'll know what the hell I'm talking about.


Oh and if i forgot to mention it, wasn't steel first developed in the Western world? Thus allowing all those Polo loving chaps to hack their way through as much flesh and bone as their heart contended?