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Negroponte's Talk at Emerging Technology Conference

xacting writes "The video of Nicholas Negroponte's talk about MIT's One Laptop per Child (OLPC) research initiative was just posted to MIT World. In it, he discusses the challenges of tripling the world's laptop production, dealing with China's policies towards free speech and the problems of grey markets." From the article: "The key to churning out these cheap educational devices is volume -- and the more countries that join the bandwagon, the sleeker and less expensive the computers are likely to be. Negroponte casts a wary eye on the potential grey market appeal of the machines, and is determined to make them so distinctive as a government-distributed, educational tool that taking one would 'be like stealing a post office truck.' Negroponte concludes, 'Changing education on the planet is a monumental challenge,' taking decades. But OLPC will 'seed the change,' and help 'invent the future.'"

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  1. Not so sure ... by RageEX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why is everyone so sure that putting a laptop in a kids hand will help them that much? I'm sure it's a great idea on some level but what about starving illiterate kids, wouldn't food and teachers be a better investment?

    1. Re:Not so sure ... by quokkapox · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not every community in Africa is starving and lacking teachers.

      Think of what benefits would result if every student in a small Kansas town were given a $100 laptop with Net access.

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    2. Re:Not so sure ... by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Food is a temp sollution as it feeds them once, barely, and after being fed they require being fed again after.It grows dependency on the Western world. Making them independant, giving access to information and education creates independance and in the long run will help them feed themselves, maybe train some doctors engineers and farmers in the long run? Education will be able to provide that, in the long run.

      Further, having the 3rd world countries develop, will create an economy to do business with for the Western countries, instead of exploitation.

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    3. Re:Not so sure ... by RageEX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who said Africa?

      A lot of fat Ameircan kids get very early access to computers, what good does it do them? Seems like we still have a problem with math, reading, and reasoning in this country and throwing money at it doesn't necessarily help.

      I'll repeat myself, I'm sure it's a great idea on some level. But will spending all this money on technology ahead of treating disease, famine, poverty etc. produce results? These machines can't teach a child to read or write can then? Will they just become a fancy Feynman-eque abacus?

    4. Re:Not so sure ... by quokkapox · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The Internet is a mixed bag, good and bad. I rather have kids (in Kansas or Africa) read a good international newspaper than to have them uncontrolled access to the Internet.

      The internet is a good international newspaper, and much more. Internet access with good training is probably the most empowering thing you can donate to people who don't have access to such tools. Save people from dying of starvation, malaria, and war, and then teach them how to use the Internet. Then they can write their own international newspapers.

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  2. I want one, no, TWO! by Medievalist · · Score: 3, Insightful


    I'll happily pay for at least one 3rd world child's $100 laptop if I can buy another one for MY kids!

  3. I don't understand this approach by giorgiofr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Time and time again, we have been shown that trying to deny people access to things they want leads to one thing only: black market, with all the niceties that usually follow it.
    So why is Negroponte so keen on preventing everybody who's not a starving child from getting the 100$-laptop? Especially since he seems so worried that they might not be in enough demand to grant them the best prices for components etc.
    I say, why limit distribution and *force* this to be a government-sponsored program?

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  4. Methinks the whole approach is wrong by CodeShark · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Okay, so you have a kajillion kids laptops out there -- which are then quickly out-dated in terms of both hardware and software.

    Wouldn't it be a whole lot better to first develop and distribute a "thin client" laptop that is not much more than a browser, screen, keyboard, and Wifi connection, along with substantial enough (and presumably pricier) servers that act as access portals, and then second, a more advanced laptop that can store useful data and other programs usable by more advanced students that qualify for them?

    Secondarily, I would think that the first and/or second laptops could be sold as an entry level laptop in the first world countries with a sufficient profit margin (and the ability of educational systems like rural school districts, etc. to purchase a limited number of machines without the profit margin built in) to underwrite the distribution of many more machines to the third world? After all, if the whole thing is done under a non-profit framework, there isn't shareholder bottom line to worry about. What think ye all?

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  5. It's the Software, Stupid by Slugster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the problem--that there is not really much useful media to put on these machines.
    For the most part, "the Internet" in itself is not directly useful in a lower-grade classroom, unless you want to teach kids about porn. What electronic media is available is usually only optional, and designed to complement the printed books.

    What really needs to be created is MEDIA, electronic versions of suitable textbooks. And a database of quiz and test questions, organized by book sections, and a program to automatically check those answers. If the hardware had a way to do very-short-range networking (I'm thinking IR here, it only needs to work inside one room and not cause interference in adjoining rooms) then the ability to push file content over it and a way to check quiz answers in real-time would be a good thing too.

    But you really don't need a whole laptop to do this. A laptop is really just adding a whole bunch more problems. A simnple e-book type device with a few input buttons would work. You wouldn't even really need a multi-tasking OS; this greatly cuts down on the speed and memory requirements of the hardware.

    And finally, the thing's got to be drop-proof, water-proof, crayon-proof, ect. It needs to run off of regular disposeable (or possibly rechargeable) batteries, not $150 li-ion jobs. A laptop is NOT what will work for this.

    And really--e-textbooks would/should be priced far lower than printed copies. There's no incentive for any school to even consider going to e-book use, if they are going to have to pay a bunch of money for hardware, and then pay a bunch more for "e-book licenses". If they just go with the printed books, they only pay a bunch once.
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  6. I may be way off base here, but... by uxo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm guessing there are a couple billion people in the world that would rather have clean drinking water instead of a goddamn $100 laptop.

    Particularly since $100 is probably a half to a third of their yearly income...

  7. Why make them unattractive? by lheal · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why put any artificial barrier at all in front of your product? If your goal is to make them ubiquitous, then let nothing get in the way.

    He recognizes capitalism's inexorable hand, but refuses to accept it. He'd be much better off working with it. Accept that there is going to be a market for the things, and sell into the market. Someone's going to.

    For instance, he could make a bare-bones, fully-functional version of the product available to schools, but sell a more elaborate model to consumers, a similar but higher priced one to business, and a milspec one to the US DOD.

    By working with capitalists, instead of fighting them, the project would stand a much better chance of actually succeeding.

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  8. Just a thought.. by Chaffar · · Score: 3, Interesting
    What is the first thing a kid receiving a $100 laptop going to think? Yep, that's right:
    HOW MUCH CAN I SELL THIS FOR?
    The fact is that $100 for these kids is worth 200 days of work if you follow 50 cent/day wage they get for 12-14 hours of work (according to this but I've heard of even less...).

    What to do? Use this "machine" for an undefined incomprehensible goal, I mean even the makers don't really know exactly how this laptop thingamagig will actually be beneficial in REAL terms (ignore the use of buzzwords such as explore, interact and create, they don't mean anything). OR, they could flog it in the closest market for the highest they can, giving them REAL benefits, such as cash, to buy that tin pot they'll use to boil water, or whatever it is they need.

    The first thing they need to realize is the importance of education. The second thing will be for them to actually do something about it. The third and last component will be to give them the tools they need to achieve their educational goals.

    Both my grandfathers were refugees from the Armenian Genocide and arrived in France/Syria with nothing at all with them, they were orphans 5/7 years old and couldn't read or write. One of them went to a French school, got the education he needed. The other one didn't have the same privilege, he taught himself everything. Guess which one actually was the more educated person at the end? Yep, the one who taught himself.

    The point? Education is not only about the tools you have at your disposal, it's also the willingness and dedication to learn.

  9. It's not like stealing a post office truck by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "like stealing a post office truck"

    It's not stealing. Isn't this more like BUYING a used, surplus truck from the postal service? You give someone a laptop-- what's wrong with them selling the laptop?

    What would be the disadvantage in selling these laptops to people in wealthy nations as a commodity? That is precisely what the Freeplay Foundation does with their "Lifeline Radio", which is a robust, windup/solar powered, AM/FM/SW radio designed for people who live in areas without power. You can buy one radio through CCrane and they'll donate a second one to someone in need.

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  10. Re:Yeah ok bud... by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Why not? If they are starving (and most africans aren't, you know) they can look up what is edible in their area. (Or how to prepare what they have to make it last.) If they are farmers, they can look up farming techniques. (A lot of africa is at the subsitance level: a little better farming techniques would be all they need to start generating wealth.)

    As for AIDs... A large portion of the problem with AID/HIV in africa is education. People don't know what to do to protect themselves from it, how they can get it, etc. With an internet connection they can look all that up.

    This is the 'teach a man to fish' principle: If they are starving today, they need a fish. If they are likely to be starving soon, they need fishing lessons. A cheap internet connected laptop would allow them to look up the best way to fish. Or whatever else they need.

    (Also: cheap laptops mean cheap teaching of basic computer skills. Which means the students are more employable, in more jobs, with less on-the-job training. Which is better for the economies of the countries.)

    These can help. Don't doubt it. Don't assume Africa is in the stone age.

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  11. Q's & A's to the posters who don't bother to w by maggard · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since most of the posters seem woefully under-informed (you DID watch the video before posting?) here are responses to a few of the silly comments that have already come up:

    • Q: Why stop these US$100 laptops from being sold?
      A: They're not. Quantas, their manufacturer, is free to sell the same item to anyone. However those commercial versions cost will be closer to US$200.

    • Q: Why is this only for 3rd World places?
      A: It's not, the State of Massachusetts and others are already committed to large purchases. Why not get your community involved?

    • Q: Why insist on targeted distribution?
      A: Because all the research shows that 'seeding' 1 per 5 kids or whatever doesn't have the same network effect (figuratively & literally) that ubiquitous use in an area does.

    • Q: Why do these kids need laptops? Why not food/water/medicine?
      A: They need all of those, and those are vital things to see they get. But once those immediate needs are met the long term goal of providing an education is what will help these kids and their communities be self-sufficient, indeed able to assist other neighboring communities.

    • Q: Where's the software for this?
      A: It's Redhat Linux, this is /., are you serious? OK, less inflammatory answer: With a standard cheap platform out there individuals, organizations, governments, and the communities receiving these will be able to develop what they can take advantage of.

    • Q: So what's to keep unscrupulous folks from buying these out the back door of warehouses?
      A: First the local communities will likely look down on this theft of their resources pretty intensely. Second the goal is to make any trade in these universally unsavory. Will it be 100% effective? No. But this is an easy issue to rally behind and the $100 models will be distinctive from their commercial kin.

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