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Grokster Launches Fear Campaign

An anonymous reader writes "Slyck is reporting on Grokster's new scare tactic. Suddenly it's become taboo to head over to Grokster.com. In a transparent attempt to scare potential P2P users, Grokster.com has reinforced its anti-P2P sentiment. The visitor's IP address is clearly displayed in large font on the Grokser's homepage while indicating the address was logged."

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  1. The Warning Is Misleading by Scarletdown · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Quoting from the Grokster homepage...

    The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed that using this service to trade copyrighted material is illegal.


    It should read...

    The United States Supreme Court unanimously confirmed that using this service to trade copyrighted material without the copyright owner's permission is illegal.


    The way they worded it makes it sound like it is even illegal for people to distribute their own materials that they have created themselves via P2P. So, I guess according to the powers that be, I'm now a criminal for using Gnutella to distribute my own stories and animations that I have created, and to which I own the copyrights.

    Of course, it isn't illegal, but the way these warnings are worded can sometimes make it seem that way.
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  2. Re:Get a sense of proportion by KiloByte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not about knowing the public IP of the machine that issued the http request.
    It's about sending lies and propaganda to the uneducated users.

    We do know that visiting a site tells them about the IP address -- your, your proxy's or a random TOR server's; and also your browser's ID string which usually mentions your operating system.
    But we, users who are knowledgeful about how this works, are not those who are the intended target of this scare campaign. Just as those who know how a washing powder works are not a target of most TV adverts.

    People who are knowledgeful about washing powders balk at nonsence spewed in adverts, but this doesn't stop the nonsense from affecting 99% of the society.

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  3. Re:Umm which computer by tsotha · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Doesn't really matter, in the end. When you file a lawsuit it's absolutely free to add names to a lawsuit - it costs them the same to sue one as to sue everyone in the house. That's why in malpractice suits they sue the doctor, the nurse, the hospital, the department chair, the gardener, the bum sleeping on the heating grate... No matter how innocent you are you'll have to pay a lawyer to defend you.

    The whole point of the exercise is for you to realize you'll spend the least money by settling, no matter what the facts of the case are. Lawyers like settlements, since they don't have to do as much work and they still get paid.

    In the end it costs you minimum a couple grand to be sued even if you win, unless you can prove that was the intent of the suit. Good luck on that one - judges, former lawyers all, are in no hurry to discourage the filing of lawsuits. You'll pretty much need a memo that says "let's sue them until they run out of money, even though we don't have a case." Anyone who can pass the bar exam is too smart to write a memo like that.

    In more civilized countries they have "loser pays" systems to discourage this sort of thing, but that's why lawyers donate millions to political campaigns, isn't it?

  4. Grokster IP log + Slashdot Effect... by Jack+Schitt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scare-tactic sponsored by Grokster by logging your IP and mentioning it: 18 unique clicks
    Slashdot story posting that mentions said scare-tacting: 182,395,483 unique clicks in 8 hours
    102mb log file and an $8000+ bandwidth overage charge: priceless

    There are some things scare-tactics can do. For everything else, use Google.

    (I'll laugh when they try to open that log file in notepad before checking it's size...)

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  5. Re:quick followup... by TallMatthew · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I love that.

    We're the MPAA. Our profits are slipping. What's the problem?

    Maybe $10 for a movie ticket, $7 for a tub of popcorn, $5 for a soda or candy bar is a little much. Nah, couldn't be it.
    Maybe laser pointers, cell phones and chatty kathies are ruining the experience. Nah, couldn't be it.
    Maybe big-screen TVs make watching movies at home more enjoyable. Nah, couldn't be it.
    Maybe showing 15 commercials before the movie starts is a little obnoxious. Nah, couldn't be it.
    Maybe we're putting out absolute drivel that no one in their right mind would sit through. Nah, couldn't be it.
    Maybe it's the online pirates, sucking down our profits over high-speed Internet connections. Yes, that's it! That's why no one goes to the movies anymore!

    Call the lawyers!

  6. What Aholes by TallMatthew · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Does anybody remember how it used to be?

    I remember creating a list of CDs I wanted. They'd be prioritized. Some CDs would have multiple songs on them I liked; I'd buy those first. Others would have only one song.

    Every once in a while, I'd splurge. I'd create a "mix tape", which was in fact a cassette tape with several singles recorded on it (yes, I'm old). This would require plunking down $15 on several CDs with only one song on it I like. Creating a mix tape like that would require somewhere in the neighborhood of $300. That was the only option to get those singles I enjoyed.

    The RIAA had it good for years by monopolizing the means of distribution. Then the Net stepped in and I haven't forked down a penny for a CD in years. It started with FTP servers and search engines (remember share ratio?), migrated to Napster, then to the other P2P networks that operate without a central authority. I don't feel a speck of a guilt. The RIAA has been paid in full, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, they owe me.

    This loathesome bullying is typical of an industry that was jerking the public around for years and now is getting it back in spades. I'm glad. Let us eat cake.