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Harnessing Vertical Sea Temperature Gradient

Sterling D. Allan writes "Sea Solar Power Inc., run by three generations of James Hilbert Andersons, has developed a solar power technology that does not fluctuate with the weather, but is available constantly. Their solution is to harness the solar energy stored in the sea by tapping the thermal gradient that exists naturally between the surface and deep waters, using a reverse refrigeration cycle. The modeling and testing done by the Anderson family over three generations since 1962 predicts that the cost of energy generation through this method will be within a price range comparable to nuclear, coal, natural gas, and other contemporary grid power plants. Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion, or OTEC, was invented in 1881 by a French scientist, Jacques Arsene D'Arsonval. SSP should be ready to build their first full prototype 2-3 years from now."

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  1. Re:Solar???? by Lifewish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I knew I missed something...

    Incidentally, does the thought of messing around with oceanic temperature gradients bother anyone slightly? It's probably not on a scale nearly wide enough to destabilise any currents, but it'd be good to have an oceanographer's opinion on this.

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  2. Re:IANAO by 14erCleaner · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If the energy they're taking is but a tiny, tiny fraction of the thermal energy availible in the ocean (which i think is most likely the case) then it won't be an issue.

    The article says that the current world consumption of energy is about 1/300th of the energy available from the oceans in this way. I'm not sure if that's a tiny fraction or not, actually. Local effects on the ecology could be significant for a large power generation facility.

    But the article also says that they can produce fresh water as a by-product, and that the process works best in the tropics (i.e. the developing world), so this might have a chance, since it'd probably be better for the environment than more fossil fuel consumption.

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  3. Re:Unfortunately, it's not a passive energy source by paco3791 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with any power generation scheme is that there are always side effects, you just have to pick your poison.

    With photovoltaic systems you have the nasty chemicals currently associated with manufacture, with wind power you have what some people consider noise and landscape pollution, along with bird strike problems, although this problem is probably over hyped with newer windmill designs.

    There is, as they say, no free lunch.

  4. Re:Unfortunately, it's not a passive energy source by Chandon+Seldon · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Absolutely any technique to generate power will have environmental consequences. Wind power takes wind energy out of the atmosphere, which could cause climate change if used on a large scale. This proposal is about the same.

    A very important point to remember is that we will use an increasing amount of energy for the forseable future and that energy will be generated somehow. Coal is the default power technology. Every time a wind / nuclear / tidal / etc power plant doesn't get built another coal plant is built instead. So the question isn't "Is there an environmental impact from this power source?" - we know that answer, there always is - the question is "Is this better than coal?".

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  5. Re:Unfortunately, it's not a passive energy source by caseih · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, even photovoltaic solar panels aren't passive. They prevent energy that would reaching the ground from doing so, altering the energy balance there. In short there is no form of energy that we can extract from nature that doesn't alter in some way (large or small) the natural energy flows and balance in nature.

  6. Re:Sound too good to be true? Perhaps it is... by electroniceric · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd hardly call this "debunking". I happen to know David Battisti, and I think he's a good and credible atmospheric circulation researcher. On the other hand, plenty of other good and credible oceanographic circulation researchers I know would refute this, and have done extensive work on the amount of heat transported by the Gulf Stream, and its role in sustaining thermohaline circulation and associated climate effects. A press release about paper maketh noth scientific truth.

    Not only that, but even if the Gulf Stream is not the primary deliverer of heat to northern Europe, the 20-line press release you cited does not claim that Europe's climate will not be affected by a change in thermohaline circulation.

    So if you're searching for a thin vine to cling to the increasingly untenable view that carbon-loading of the atmosphere is not a major problem, better not grab too hard on this one.