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Your Cell Records For Sale Online, Cheap

AviN456 writes "The Chicago Sun-Times is reporting that your phone records are for sale online to the general public. From the article 'The Chicago Police Department is warning officers their cell phone records are available to anyone -- for a price. Dozens of online services are selling lists of cell phone calls, raising security concerns among law enforcement and privacy experts.' One of these sites is selling cell phone records for $110 for a month's worth of calls. No court order needed, no credentials required. If they want your records and have the money, they get 'em."

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  1. $110 a month's worth of calls sounds expensive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet the NSA might be able offer a reduced price on these kinds of lists.

  2. Re:Oh no!! by DarkIye · · Score: 5, Insightful
    A bit of a controversial issue, that. Most people (the government included) will see only the fact that an FBI agent's been snooped on, and that something important's gone awry. Of course, people won't often ascribe the same situation to themselves. The thing I think's a bit poor is that people don't really care if they're being swindled or not, unless somebody says "This is happening to you, and it's bad". A bit like terrorism in America - it's been going on around the world for years, but it's only when it comes to the hearth and home and the government starts telling people it's bad that people start to have any feelings about it.

    I'm not trying to call names here, but that's sort of how a salesman works - he gives you a problem you don't usually think about, then says "This thing will solve your problem". Never thought of it like that before.

  3. The underlying problem by Schezar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once news of this hits the mainstream television media, I imagine the public outcry and following legislation will put the kaibosh on it.

    Still, the underlying problem is far deeper than many will admit. I believe that we in the United States have a certain right to an expectation of privacy, but at the same time we cannot rely on that expectation to safeguard information regarding ourselves. Information exists beyond the scope of your personal effects, and you cannot reasonably expect others to protect it for you.

    The problem is that most financial and personal transactions here rely almost entirely on security through obscurity: the identity thief can't steal your identity... until he gets ahold of your (trivial to obtain) SSN, and so forth. We rely on hiding information about ourselves as a means of securing our effects, despite the fact that such information is all but unprotectable in the face of modern technology.

    No amount of legislation is going to stop people from uncovering information: the only way to mitigate this is to make the information on its own worthless.

    A social security number should be useless to anyone but me. Same with a bank account number. The security needs to be seperate from the identification.

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  4. Re:Oh no!! by Vesperi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, your phone records are your providors business records. They can do with them what they want. Go read your TOS.

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  5. If they are doing nothing wrong ..... by cyberscan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they are doing nothing wrong, then they have nothing to worry about. Isn't that the tired old argument the governments give the people? It also applies to the police, politicians, judges, corporate officer, and any other official. I have long stated that every bit of information on these folks should be publically posted where anyone can have ready access to it. This information should incluse all licence numbers, SSN's, medical information, and so on. This is what they do to us so it should also be done to them.

  6. Re:Caution for everyone, not just cops by Kadin2048 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe because for someone working undercover, who assumes that only the police (meaning, them) have access to cell phone call logs, this could easily get them killed.

    Just think: you're a gang leader and suspect that someone in your organization is a narc. You have all of their cell phone numbers, because that's how you communicate, so you call up Locatecell and get the logs. The one who has the local PD in their logs gets a pair of cement shoes for Christmas.

    While the rest of us could certainly be inconvenienced, or perhaps lose our jobs / marriages / etc., because of this, probably we won't have the same risk of ending up dead.

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  7. Called Sprint - Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After reading the SunTimes article I decided to call Sprint (my cell phone company). The people I talked to had never heard of this service. They told me that I needed to speak to fraud. After many attempts to get someone to listen I finally got a supervisor on the line. I explained that I did not authorize Sprint to disclose my address, name, and/or phone records with a third party. The supervisor opened the site and was shocked at what was available. I was transferred to a tech support person that I again explained the information release problem to. The technician told me he would get a phone from their stock of phones they use for testing and put the information from that phone into the website. After the technician verified the ability to gather information about a phone I was transferred to Sprint corporate security. Sprint corporate security was shocked that this type of service was available without a court order. I was assured that Sprint would not sell my information to a third party. The information about the site and news article was forwarded to the fraud and legal departments.