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Open-source Overhauls Patent System

K-boy writes "The US Patent Office has announced new plans to reform the patent system - and right up there at the front is open-source software. Techworld argues that it is in fact open-source software that has been the driving force behind the reform." From the New York Times article: "At a meeting last month with companies and organizations that support open-source software (software that can be distributed and modified freely), including I.B.M., Red Hat, Novell and some universities, officials of the patent office discussed how to give patent examiners access to better information and other ways to issue higher-quality patents. Two of the initiatives would rely on recently developed Internet technologies. An open patent review program would set up a system on the patent office Web site where visitors could submit search criteria and subscribe to electronic alerts about patent applications in specific areas."

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  1. Surface changes only by lastchance_000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From a quick scan of the article, it appears the changes will affect searches for prior art only (which is a good improvement), but will not address the deeper problem of patents being issued for things like business processes. (One-click, anyone?)

  2. i.b.m.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    awww IBM's finaly growing up, it got its first three periods.

  3. Doesn't solve major problems by nattt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Major issue with software patents cannot be solved by better searches for prior art - the only way to fix software patents is to do away with them in their entirety.

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  4. A Troll in TFA by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "One frequent critic of the patent system, Gregory Aharonian, publisher of The Internet Patent News Service, said it was unlikely that the new initiatives would have a significant impact, because the patent office was not able to deal efficiently with the information it already had."

    Let's see, give someone organized data and better search tools, and it won't help them search faster and more accurately?

    Hey! My bike chain broke because my gears are not set properly. Let's not fix the gears, it's the chain that broke!

    I'm not saying that information access is the only problem the patent system has. And I also understand that the three steps proposed are not a panacaea. But not taking steps to fix part of the problem. just because the problem exists? Ridiculous.

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  5. Quick, patent these while you can! by kimvette · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please!

    before the overhaul takes place will some do-no-evil company please patent the following:

      - flash advertisements which use sound

      - flash advertisements which take over your browser and shove themselves over the content you're trying to read

      - annoying flashing siezure-inducing animated GIF advertisements

    and then sue every advertiser which uses that style ad for patent licensing fees, and commit to not use those style ads on any web site, EVER?

    Thanks. This would be an appropriate use for patenting prior art. If you do this you will have my eternal appreciation.

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  6. Wow! Temporarily, a victory for OSS? by CodeShark · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If this survives what I would predict to be a hugelobbying effort on the part of the massive corporate software interests, this could be the most significant reform of the Patent Office in my lifetime. [which is longer than I'd like to admit but shorter than the creation of digital computers].

    I mean, since when has there been an "Open submission" for prior art in any of the USPTOs area of authority, or to have a searchable database for newly published applications that allows you, me, and everybody else to offer feedback directly to the examiners who need the information most [Note: I am including the patent quality index" under the heading of feedback by the way.]

    From the Techworld article:The USPTO will host a public meeting to discuss the projects at its offices on 16 February.

    I hope that RSM, ESR, etc. Lawrense Lessig et. all are there to defend this proposed change.

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  7. But it's an advance. by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Remember!

    If it's not a step backward, it's a step forward!

    Later we can worry about elliminating software patents entirely.

    Besides, take a look at this:

    Another part will allow anyone who visits the USPTO website to search for patent information and receive emails regarding newly published patent applications. The program will also encourage the public to review patent applications and offer feedback to the USPTO regarding prior art.

    The final leg of the program is a patent quality index. The index will assign a number to patent applications and patents indicating the quality of the patent. Members of the public can use the indexing system to evaluate the quality of proposed patents, patent holders can use it to identify weaknesses in their own patents, and companies can use the index to evaluate competitive patents relevant to a field they may be working in.


    Not only can prior art be searched more effectively, the PEOPLE (this is, us!) can submit their comments about the patents in question. In other words, if an obvious software patent goes to slashdot, we, the slashdotters, can complain about it DIRECTLY!

    And that's a good thing :)
    1. Re:But it's an advance. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The argument against the validity of software patents lies in the fact that they are really mathematics patents. Except for the past 2 decades, math had always been placed deliberately out of bounds for the purpose of granting patents. My understanding on why is that math is simply too foundational for all other inventions across all science and engineering disciplines. For an extreme (okay, silly (I hope) :-) example, imagine the chilling effect patents would have on, say, algebraic identities.

      Of course, with the invention and refinement of mechanical computers in last 50 years, the number, size, and specifity of mathematic expressions (i.e., programs) has grown at a even faster rate than, say, Moore's Law (IMO). Given the new world of software, it is possible that the historic reasons against patenting math have become obsolete. I don't think so but that's just me and, apparently, the patent office disagrees with me.

  8. Simple solution? by LightningBolt! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If there were an official website where patent applications were scrutinized and commented on by the public, I'd bet a lot more patent applications would be thrown out due to prior art. Here on slashdot, every time some patent is mentioned at all, there's some cranky old technology guy who remembers doing the same thing back in '78 on some project at Fubartronics Inc. Further, competing companies would have the incentive to do the research to find solid prior art and comment on it.

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  9. deja vu... by revery · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think all the patents should be put in a queue that is visible to the public and that we can moderate. Also, maybe there should be a limit on how many patent submissions you can make in a day, or a week, or something. And I don't think Roland Piquepaille or Beatles Beatles should be able to patent anything.

    Wait... didn't we already have this discussion today?

  10. Your Sig: The 9th Amendment by hackwrench · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, the Courts pretend that the 9th amendment doesn't exist, or the debate over the "right to privacy" in the Roe vs. Wade case in the Supreme Court would not have happened. I wonder what would have happened if somebody sat them down and said, "Of course the right to privacy exists, read the 9th Amendment!" Yeah, I thought as much.

  11. Nice, but what about obviousness? by Bob9113 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is nice, but the real problem with patents today is not novelty, it is obviousness. The article implies that the obviousness problem is not being addressed. The worst patents in recent memory have been bad because they were obvious, not because they had been done before. One-click was novel (as proven when the prior art challenge failed). One-click was not non-obvious. Obviousness cannot be tested by patent examiners; they are not skilled in the art.

    I recently read what seems like a good solution; when a patent is submitted it must be tested for obviousness. Submit the problem that the patent solves to a panel of experts. If they come up with a sufficiently similar solution, the patent is void. Funding? Submitters who get their patents voided for obviousness pay the expense of the panel - calculate the cost at the end of the year and divvy it among the applicants. That has the added bonus of penalizing patent flooders, and since there will still be rivers of patents coming from IBM and MS, the individual patent submitter will only risk a tiny fraction of the cost of the board.